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Thanks for the update guys. Don't take what's on that shopping cart as final lol. I'm just trying to get an idea on what to get without making a stupid mistake, or mistakes. Hah. The 1/2 Fittings and 7/16 tubing is good, yeah? I read on a post here that it'll work just fine. All these 1/2's, 3/4's, 5/8's confuse the hell outta me.
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I'd get a cheaper and more functional reservoir (like an xspc bay reservoir or similar), use barbs instead of compression fittings (just as safe as long as you put them on right, and they're much cheaper), and that's not necessarily my favorite rad. I'd be happy to recommend one, depending on if you're going for low, mid, or high speed fans.

TL;DR: when I look at the price tag and then see what you're getting for it, I cry. You can definitely use the money better

edit: frozencpu has notoriously high prices. shop around a bit more for better value on the same or better components

2nd edit: going by your sig rig, I have absolutely no idea how you would set this up in a level 10 gt, but what size radiator are you looking for? if you're looking to cool a cpu + gpu, I'd recommend a decent 360
Edited by tommy1993 - 4/22/11 at 8:18pm
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post #13 of 38
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I hear ya on the price tag. I have no intentions of buying anything anytime soon. I do love that Reservoir though =( lol. I'll probably end up getting regular Barbs. As for the Radiator, I was told that I should just switch to the Black Ice GTX 240 since Water Cooling my GPU will probably be happening in the near future. For fans, I was thinking about the Scythe Ultra Kaze's.

Question: Since I would be using 1/2 Barbs and 7/16 Tubing, do you guys still recommend clamps for the Pump? I read more up on the barb/tubing size, and it seems that these will give a perfect tight fit. (no phun intended)

edit: The case is actually quite spacious. It will only fit a 240 Rad on top though. Possibly a 360?....Hmm.....So yeah, a bit confused on which Rad to get if I decide on getting a GPU block as well.
Edited by R3apR369 - 4/22/11 at 8:42pm
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With that gtx480 and a cpu, a 240 rad could cover it, just don't expect fantastic temps. Decent, better than air cooling, but not fantastic. I would really advise against skythe ultra kazes unless you love the sound of jet engines (for the 3k rpm versions anyways, not sure about the lower ones. or you could put the 3ks on a fan controller). If it were me I'd just hunt around and find some Gentle Typhoon AP-15s - they're out of stock a lot because demand for them is huge, but they're worth the wait.

Instead of 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs I'd go 1/2 tubing and 7/16 barbs, you want the tubing to fit really snugly over the barbs. I have 1/2 tubing and 1/2 barbs, and I got metal clamps to screw on where the tubing meets the barbs, and it's 100% secure - just make sure you tighten the clamps properly with a screw driver (or a socket set if you happen to have one).

Again, what radiator I'd recommend depends heavily on fan speed, and I'd really advise against ultra kazes unless you're sure you're okay with incredible noise (higher fins per inch on the radiator tends to like higher speed fans, lower fpi = lower speed fans), but static pressure on the fans is a lot more important. In case you're not familiar, static pressure refers to the ability of the fan to push air through an object. The reason why Gentle Typhoons make such good radiator fans despite low CFM (compared to a lot of other fans) is their fantastic static pressure.

another thing that's nice about a fan controller is that if you're water cooled, while your computer is idling, you probably don't need the fans on full blast or even on at all to cool things off acceptably. So for me, my fans only spin when I'm in a game, otherwise all the fans are off and all I hear is the pump, which is really quiet. I really like having an almost noiseless computer, and if I leave it on overnight just idling or torrenting/downloading something, I can turn all the fans off and everything still stays chilly
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post #15 of 38
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I hear ya on the price tag. I have no intentions of buying anything anytime soon. I do love that Reservoir though =( lol. I'll probably end up getting regular Barbs. As for the Radiator, I was told that I should just switch to the Black Ice GTX 240 since Water Cooling my GPU will probably be happening in the near future. For fans, I was thinking about the Scythe Ultra Kaze's.

Question: Since I would be using 1/2 Barbs and 7/16 Tubing, do you guys still recommend clamps for the Pump? I read more up on the barb/tubing size, and it seems that these will give a perfect tight fit. (no phun intended)

edit: The case is actually quite spacious. It will only fit a 240 Rad on top though. Possibly a 360?....Hmm.....So yeah, a bit confused on which Rad to get if I decide on getting a GPU block as well.
If looking into GPU as well, it's always best to get the biggest you can up front since it isn't a large price difference. Try making a cardboard box the dimensions of the radiators and seeing if it fits in your case, or look for builds that others have done and what radiators they've been able to fit. Try just searching for Level 10 gt 360 radiator?

I would recommend clamps or zip ties for the tubing. I know I put them on when I built my setup yesterday. My old setup used worm-drive clamps and I moved it in the back seat of my car all around Florida going to and from college without ever having a leak. Can you use no clamps and be fine? Probably. I am not risking it.

For fans, I don't know if you've hit this thread yet, but it's the best resource I've ever seen for fan information. That being said, I bought Panaflos before seeing that thread, and after that thread was terified about plugging them in, but they really are NOWHERE near as loud as those fans. My Panaflos are also medium speed too, not the uber-high speed shown on the thread.

I would recommend going for PWM fans, or at least getting a fan controller to control their speed. Even if you get relatively quiet fans, you just won't want to hear the fans at full blast all day long if your computer is nearby. I couldn't use my computer when I had these 2200 rpm yate-loon fans on 100% because I didn't have my controller yet. I installed a manual controller temporarily, and now have my PWM controlled multi-fan controller set up, and I couldn't be happier
post #16 of 38
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Instead of 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs I'd go 1/2 tubing and 7/16 barbs, you want the tubing to fit really snugly over the barbs. I have 1/2 tubing and 1/2 barbs, and I got metal clamps to screw on where the tubing meets the barbs, and it's 100% secure - just make sure you tighten the clamps properly with a screw driver (or a socket set if you happen to have one).

I'll add a couple clamps to the list. =) Also...doesn't the 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs give it a snug fit? That's what i'm reading on other forums, lol. And about the fans, I'll definitely check em out. I know I've heard of them quite often on OCN.


edit: turns out a 360 Rad can fit in the TT Level 10 GT. With a bit of modding of course. =) Guess I got some more researching to do.
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post #17 of 38
I'd get Distilled water
and a bigger rad if your going to wc a gpu down the road

you can also drop the killcolls and get this tubing
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/tysiantu1id31.html
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I'll add a couple clamps to the list. =) Also...doesn't the 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs give it a snug fit? That's what i'm reading on other forums, lol. And about the fans, I'll definitely check em out. I know I've heard of them quite often on OCN.


edit: turns out a 360 Rad can fit in the TT Level 10 GT. With a bit of modding of course. =) Guess I got some more researching to do.
I may have read the barb/tube thing wrong (I'm tired ). I'd just go ahead and get the same size, but if you want to be really careful (and struggle slipping the tube on the barb) get a tubing ID a tiny bit smaller than the barb measure.

If you're going for a 360 rad, I'd recommend the XSPC RX360 for mid range fans, GTX 360 for high speed fans, SR1 for low speed. If price is a big issue, the MCR320 is an option, but it costs less for a reason
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post #19 of 38
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Instead of 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs I'd go 1/2 tubing and 7/16 barbs, you want the tubing to fit really snugly over the barbs. I have 1/2 tubing and 1/2 barbs, and I got metal clamps to screw on where the tubing meets the barbs, and it's 100% secure - just make sure you tighten the clamps properly with a screw driver (or a socket set if you happen to have one).

I'll add a couple clamps to the list. =) Also...doesn't the 7/16 tubing and 1/2 barbs give it a snug fit? That's what i'm reading on other forums, lol. And about the fans, I'll definitely check em out. I know I've heard of them quite often on OCN.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs, 7/16 is smaller (tighter) than 8/16 (same as 1/2"), so 8/16 is slightly larger for barbs than the 7/16" tubing, i.e. a tighter fit on larger barbs. Regardless, I'd still add clamps (as I have done).

The 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs does give a tight fit, but that's the point. It wasn't difficult to install it, though I would strongly recommend fitting it to the CPU or GPU fittings before attaching them to the actual CPU or GPU. It did take some force and wiggling back and forth to get it on, but it was worth it. For the CPU ones, I actually just put it in boiling water for about 30-45 seconds until it softened up, and it immediately slid right on the CPU block without any problems. That being said, I did have concern afterward about the tubing being permanently looser from it (shouldn't be the case, but you never know), but again I put those worm drive clamps on, so I'm not too concerned about it.
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Lil update on what I may go with:

Kill Coil
Swiftech MCP655
Black Ice GTX Stealth 240 X-Flow Radiator
PrimoChill PrimoFlex Tubing (black) - 7/16
EK Supreme HF Rev.2 Nickel+Acetal
Bitspower Matte Black Barbs - 1/2
PrimoChill Clamps (for pump)

Looks like Bitspower Compression Fittings don't support 7/16 Tubing from what i'm seeing on Frozencpu.com. So i'm stuck with the Regular Barbs I guess.

Not sure on Reservoir =( I know that I don't want a Bay Reservoir though.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/98...0c97s165#blank
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10...?tl=g30c97s165
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