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Maybe this is just in my head, but it seems like the boot times on my sig rig have gotten increasingly lengthy. Before you ask, the defrag is run regularly and I clean junk files with CCleaner. Startup programs have been kept the same since original setup: Microsoft Security Essentials, Steam, and a USB 3.0 driver (not sure if disabling would break it).

I am not currently running an overclock, no instability should not be an issue. Boot times are as follows:

12 seconds until the "Starting Windows" screen
45s (+33s) to the Welcome screen
65s (+20s) to the Desktop
120-130s (+55-65s) until the HDD stops chugging and programs load normally

It just feels slower than it was, but I can't verify that because I don't have my times from the original "baby-fresh" boots. AFAIK, though, they shouldn't be any different. Whether or not this is in my head - if my drive has actually gotten slower with clutter or my perception of it's speed has just shifted - I was still planning an upgrade there. Although I may upgrade, say, the GPU later this year (Christmas?), the only thing I would benefit from at the moment is a better storage solution.

I was thinking of this: having 2x Spinpoint F3s in RAID0 with a third for backup, then adding an SSD later when I can afford one. Would this be simpler to do all at once, or is incremental upgrading ok? With the recent news of Seagate buying Samsung's HDD division, I want those Spinpoints now rather than waiting for a few months until I can also afford an SSD...and have then no longer be available.

I doubt this is relevant, but would changing from the original P8P67 to the B3 edition have made any difference? It shouldn't...
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1: Do all your upgrading at once with HDDs.
2: Try creating a separate smaller partition and loading WinXP or Linux of some kernel and checking your boot times off the secondary OS.
    
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I would recommend doing it mostly all at once, that way you don't have to reinstall Windows multiple times, run through all your driver, set everything up, etc. - I would actually go for the SSD long before going with the extra storage or raid-0 setup. Reason being is that your boot times will substantially decrease even compared to Raid-0, and you will get the feel of a quick computer back.

As for the times, it might be that it is getting a little slower, as things load from the registry, and that gets more cluttered, you get slightly longer boot times. Also as you fill up storage space, the hard drive has to start writing to the outer parts of the disk where everything is going to be slower. I'm not going to say that your times are THAT much slower as they probably aren't but maybe just a little (perception goes a long ways too)

With an SSD it takes from boot about ~25 seconds to get into windows, and maybe another 5 - 7 seconds to get all the background programs loaded, making for a total of 30 - 35 seconds.
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH View Post
2: Try creating a separate smaller partition and loading WinXP or Linux of some kernel and checking your boot times off the secondary OS.
How do I do this? My HDD is already partitioned, and a fair amount of it is in use.

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Originally Posted by apple33k85 View Post
As for the times, it might be that it is getting a little slower, as things load from the registry, and that gets more cluttered, you get slightly longer boot times. Also as you fill up storage space, the hard drive has to start writing to the outer parts of the disk where everything is going to be slower. I'm not going to say that your times are THAT much slower as they probably aren't but maybe just a little (perception goes a long ways too)
I thought about the registry, but it shouldn't be that cluttered. Should it? As far as using the slowest parts of the HDD, the OS and all programs are contained on the first 250GB partition (~110GB used). Only significant additions since original install have been games, which should be in the middle of that partition.

I really doubt that this is HDD clutter; either I am imagining things or something happened when I transitioned to the B3 board. Is there a SATA driver or something I could have missed? I couldn't find anything like that...
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Windows Key + Run

"diskmgmt.msc"
Shrink main partition
Create another partition
Format the smaller partition to NTFS
Create OS
PROFIT?!?!?
    
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