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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
Did you mean Pro: consumerist, Premium: Studio? Since the premium is much more expensive.
nope according to here

http://www.head-fi.org/products/beye...ence-headphone

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Difference between DT 880 PRO - DT 880 (Edition 2005):
The DT 880 PRO is designed for use in studio and on stage for professional use. The headband has a rugged construction (thicker material) and gives a secure fit for the listener. This provides a better fit and causes also a more powerful compressed sound which is necessary for professional applications in studio, OB and FOH.
The DT 880 (Edition 2005) is designed for listening to music and relax. The headband provides a long wearing comfort for hours. The Hifi-version has a more transparent and open sound than the DT 880 PRO.
The differences between both headphones are not huge in mechanical design, but only that small change causes a big difference in sound and application.
DT880 is the premium version
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This is the Pro (I'm not quite sure if there are any differences at all I've never tried the premium) But from what I've read the Premiums are the consumer line and the Pros are the studio version.

I've been doing a lot of reading around head-fi they all seem to agree that if you go with the 600ohm you would need to get an amp to properly drive the 600ohm. Can the STX drive the DT880? yes, can it drive it to its full potential? No. If your ears are trained you would be able to tell the difference between the DT880 250 and the 600 ohm version.

Thats not to say that the 250/600ohm versions sound crappy on the STX not at all, I can only say something about the 250 though as I have not tried the 600s yet, compared to my HD555 there is a huge improvement in clarity, balance and bass! I love them, but alas the "consumerist" in me takes over and even when I told myself that I won't be getting an amp as well as the 600 because it adds more to my budget here I am selling my brand new pair just so I can try out the 600 ohm...my way of thinking is horrible really lol.
The Xi-Fi will do better in games. the positioning is alot better then on the STX i think. But all other things the STX does it better. Music is NR1 for me instead of games so i have picked the STX myself to. The anolog quality of the STX cant be beaten at this price i think.
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nope according to here

http://www.head-fi.org/products/beye...ence-headphone



DT880 is the premium version
Ok, I misinterpreted "consumer" to meaning cheapo. I guess it means Hi-Fi home music listening. Amazon lists them as Pro and Premium so I assumed Premium was much better due to its cost. I can't believe it costs so much more though if they're so similar.


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The Xi-Fi will do better in games. the positioning is alot better then on the STX i think. But all other things the STX does it better. Music is NR1 for me instead of games so i have picked the STX myself to. The anolog quality of the STX cant be beaten at this price i think.
Thanks for clarifying that for me. I know the audiophiles will cringe seeing anyone recommend Creative but all I use the gaming PC is for gaming so I don't mind if it sucks at music.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 4/23/11 at 8:30am
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So I guess pretty much everyone is recommending the STX, but as far as headphones go, I might have to find a way to listen to some before I buy.

Edit: I called a couple places in town, but I guess they only carry Grado. At least I'll get to see if I like them
Edited by FallenFaux - 4/23/11 at 9:27am
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Remember, Grados are terrible for gaming. Almost non existent bass and soundstage.
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Remember, Grados are terrible for gaming. Almost non existent bass and soundstage.
That doesn't bother me as much, since I can just swap back to my regular headphones if I need too.

Out of curiosity, what do you think of the Grados for orchestra-type music?
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From what I've heard before (Modded SR225i), they're really really great for rock since IMHO you don't really need a big soundstage to capture how a rock music sounds like. For classical pieces, I prefer something with a large and realistic soundstage.
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Alright well, after going some searching an calling it seems like stores in the area do specific brands. So I found one for Audio-Technica and Sennheiser, but the Sennheiser dealer wont let me try them in store.

So, I'm off to listen to some and I'll let you guys know what I figure out. Thanks again for the help thus far and rep all around.
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Is the Musiland Monitor 02 better than the STX? Would it still be acceptable for gaming?
Yes and Yes. In terms of gaming, the STX is not really a great card for gaming as is and the only thing you'll really ever use on the card is Dolby Digital Live and if you don't even use that then you might as well just get an external DAC.

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at your budget i would get the STX and either HD555 or Grado SR80i/SR60i either of those headphones will be an upgrade over what you may have right now and will make a difference in gaming (imo) as well as music.
Getting the STX for those headphones would be a complete and utter waste unless you have intentions of upgrading, but the sad part is when you upgrade you're going to likely want a better source than the STX.

I'm jaded though. I can never look at the STX again. It's a nice card, but.. for the price you can find better. It's difficult to look at it and be happy with the purchase unless you can get it for under 120.

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I vote for the Xonar Essence ST/STX as well + DT770 pro 80/250.

I have the DT770 80s and they are amazing. The bass is awesome, and even better when you mess around with the Xonar Audio Center settings. The Dolby Headphone + 7.1 Speaker shifter setting sound amazing with these cans. It's not gimmicky at all.

I got my 770s for $200
Not a bad recommendation when you consider it offers bass, improved gaming etc, but the price seems to go higher and higher for this headphone to the point where I might as well skip this headphone and jump to the 880s. Personal preference though. If the OP can find these cheap, it's a viable and good option.

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The Xi-Fi will do better in games. the positioning is alot better then on the STX i think. But all other things the STX does it better. Music is NR1 for me instead of games so i have picked the STX myself to. The anolog quality of the STX cant be beaten at this price i think.
It can be beaten by external DACs and for significantly less. Some say the high end Omega products are better music-wise, but I cannot confirm this as I've never heard an Omega sound card.

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That doesn't bother me as much, since I can just swap back to my regular headphones if I need too.

Out of curiosity, what do you think of the Grados for orchestra-type music?
Grados do not mix well with Orchestra music. They don't have a good sound stage. They also have no bass for whoever said they were bassy. These headphones were made predominantly for lovers of rock and metal.

No reason to amplify them really, which makes the STX an awkward recommendation with these. You're better off finding a better DAC without an amplifier to get the most enjoyment out of your music for the price.
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Well, I went around to couple places and listened to what they had to offer, and the Grado SR80i just sound amazing to me. I tried everything with a couple CDs in the stereo they had in store and also with my Zune listening to WMA lossless and the SR80i headphones just sounded great with everything. I was a bit worried when everyone was saying that they lacked bass, but it's just not as overstated as I usually hear, I'd call it clear and concise. I may lack the audiophile vocabulary to adequately explain my point, but I think you guys get it.

@Simca, I actually talked to the guy in store and he was also a PC oriented user. He suggested a DAC over the STX and also pointed out that I wouldn't really need to get an amp unless I bought the 125 and up.

So would you recommend the Musiland Monitor 02 or something else?
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