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Das Keyboard vs XArmor

Poll Results: Which would be the best option?

Poll expired: Apr 29, 2011  
  • 55% (11)
    Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate Silent
  • 0% (0)
    XArmor U9
  • 0% (0)
    XArmor U9W
  • 20% (4)
    XArmor U9BL-S
  • 25% (5)
    pick other...
20 Total Votes  
post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Greetings everyone,

I usually read this forums but I never had the chance to make myself an account and post regularly on it. I've spended tons of hours reading guides here and reviews about keyboards and such.

After saving enouth cash and having the chance of knowing someone that is going to the USA and is able to bring me a mechanical keyboard, my time is up to get my very first and probably only mechanical keyboard I'll ever have. I live in south america, so having a warranty from the keyboard brand does not mean anything for me, since I'll not be able to ship the keyboard all the way to USA to have it check-fix/exchanged, so I must make a really good selection.

My native language is Spanish, and I like writing without any mistakes so I do use the ´ key that allows me to make áéÃ*óú, and ¿? and ¡!, so I did a massive research on keyboards at sale with the 105 key layout, and I found none.

So the main problem about switching to the 104 key layout is that the missing key is one between the left shift and the 'z' key, that allows me to do: '<' and '>' that for me is very important since I program a lot. So I did some research and I wanted to know your thoughts on remapping '<' and '>' to the right control key and the menu key on its left; is this possible?

Going to the main point now (sorry this is getting long):
I have decided that the most suitable switch for me is the brown, since I do a lot of gaming, and I do lots and lots of tapping, so I'm afraid of the blue switches won't make it, and also cause my coworkers and family will complain if I get a blue one, due the noise.

My budget is 150$ for it (including shipment), and only if its worth it up to 200$.

I see a lot of people talking so much and making so many comparisons to the FILCOs that it seems like it's the best brand of keyboards(although they are a bit overpriced), and I wish there was a way to get a brown switches one with the full layout, but since the tenkeyless are the only ones at sale now, I won't be getting a FILCO.

My initials thoughts were going for a DAS Keyboard Model S Ultimate Silent 135$, since having blank keys would look better than having the wrong layout on the keyprints, and cause I read its a good keyboard brand. The cons on it are that the shinny material of it. I'm not scared about having a lot of fingerprints on it, or the dust that it might attract but if its easy or not to get scratched. Since you can always clean the keyboard when you want it.

Also, I was having on consideration the XArmor with brown switches, and I found like 3 different versions of it at sale right now:
The U9 at 64$
The U9W at 80$
and The U9BL-S at 108$

They all are cheaper and if both were to be the quality build and such, I would go for a XArmor, but if the Das is way better in this, I would not have a problem on paying that extra for it.

I like the backlight on the XArmor, although it's not a must, also that it has 2 usb ports and jacks for the headset I can make use of them. What really makes me think not to pick them, is that it seems like this got renamed a lot and sold by different brands, on different places, some people reported problems on previous models and that does not provide me any confidence on the durability on those. Also, the con on the keyprints is that I don't like how they moved all the signs up for better lighting, good for the lighting but looks awkward.

So please guys, I want your personal advices on this, which one should I go for, the Das, the XArmor or which one else? I would love to know if you have one or both of them, which one you like better?

I will really really appreciate all the feedback and advices I get on this!

Kind regards, from all the way down to Bolivia,

Esteban / Steve

PS:also posted this on geekhack to get as much advices/feedback as possible, I read both forums! >_<
Edited by Zenthor - 4/22/11 at 9:24pm
post #2 of 9
If this will be your only mechanical- I would suggest going for the Deck keyboards.

http://deckkeyboards.com/

They are very high quality and solid. A lot better then the others. Since it's your only opportunity to get one, I would advise the extra expense to get the best quality you can.
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post #3 of 9
The Das has slightly higher build quality and a slightly lower defect rate, but the XArmors are still very high quality keyboards.

Keep in mind the different feature sets of the XArmor keyboards. The U9 doesn't have any ports, or backlighting or anything. The U9W is wireless. And you already seem familiar with the U9BL-S.

I think the XArmors are the better value, but the Das is slightly better built.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the fast replies guys!

I saw the Deck keyboards a while, the difference on the price is really worth it? I would certainly like to spend 150 maximum, but I would spend a little more only if its reaaaally worth it. Also, I've checked on performance pcs the Deck distributor on USA and all the keyboards with Chery Clear switches (I like this ones too, since they are almost like browns), are Sold Out, and on the Deck site they say they will be restock on june. I must make my choice and buy it in max 2 weeks... The keyboard must have arrived on 15th may.
post #5 of 9
There's been a price drop on the xarmors, you can get a u9bl-s for $108 now
post #6 of 9
Das and Xarmor are the Yin and the Yang.

They fits two opposite needs, so its really matter of preference.

On the bangs for the bucks side Xarmor is obviously a way better choice.

Assuming the same price (in the last days is not the case anymore) for an Xarmor you will pay 80$ for the plain keyboard and 50$ for the backlight, on the DAS you will pay 80$ for the keyboard and 50$ for the "geekiness"
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
The Solutor, are you sure both are the same quality builds? I see many reviews and comparisons of the Das to the Filco and such, but the XArmor it's not bad but dosent have the same quality as the Das.

Btw, anyone knows the reason why this keyboard is sold under many other brands and names? Tesoro, XArmor and a couple of 2 others I read are 100% the same with different printing on the wrist rest and on the top/back of the keyboard... that seems like something isn't that... right...
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by Zenthor View Post
The Solutor, are you sure both are the same quality builds?
Surely the DAS legends are will never wear out...

BTW the Xarmor has really nothing wrong, the only lacks of refinement is represented by the backlight level not restored on reboot.

Other than that, I opened it (I changed the switches) and all is ok, the plastics are good, the soldering are well made, the PCB is good, the lights are even, the connectors are gold plated and so on.

Other than that are two keyboards built with the switches made by the same company, so the main component is exactly the same.

Also the usb ports are on the back and not on the side of the KB and this is a good choice.

So, for me the xarmor is way a better coiche, if they where 130$ v.s. 80$ I could have some doubts, but actually the Xarmor costs even less than the DAS...

Quote:
Btw, anyone knows the reason why this keyboard is sold under many other brands and names? Tesoro, XArmor and a couple of 2 others I read are 100% the same with different printing on the wrist rest and on the top/back of the keyboard... that seems like something isn't that... right...
The kb is made by iOne, for some commercial reason the branding is different from a continent to another, personally I couldn't care less.

I still buy the Logitech mice even if they are sold as Logicool in Japan, and I still buy the Esso's gasoline even if in the US the brand is Exxon
Edited by The Solutor - 4/23/11 at 7:34pm
post #9 of 9
I got my Das S Ultimate for a hair over $100 thanks to their student discount. If you could secure such a deal on a Das S Ultimate, that is what I would buy. If not, however, the price differential between the Das and the X-armor is too great to warrant the slight increase the Das's slightly better build quality.
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