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It means, that when i do upgrade again, i wont have to replace the video card? Its not about making sense, I got it at an extremely good price. However if you can tell me what $170 dollar card would be as good, id be glad to hear it (bearing in mind im in the UK and that equates to around £100 at the moment, of which you cant even buy a single GTX460 for)

No need to pick on everyone, you just make yourself look silly.
I hope you got it for a steal since 7000 series and 700 series are coming out later this year.

What I mean is even a low end card in most games is going to provide you the exact same min fps as your 6990 will provide. You felt the need to state that anything over 60 isn't important, there are cards below $200 that will provide a Phenom II with enough demand to make little use of the extra power a 6990 provides. You aren't playing at high res, and you have only one monitor.

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This statement makes no sense.

Its not in the top 5.
It does when you understand what you're talking about. Can you list two cpus that are faster in 90% of the games currently on the market?

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True. A $170 card won't perform the same in terms of quality,you may get a few extra frames with the better GPU, the extra FPS over 60 you will not notice anyway.
A decent card sub $200 should push a phenom II to the limit, you may need to lower your settings slightly, but probably not much.

6870 for $180 would do the trick, sell the Shogun 2 key and you're under $170 easy. And it would be more than capable of producing cpu bottlenecks on a Phenom II.

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Peoples circumstances are different for each PC which is the thing you seem to fail to grasp in most of your replies. And your wrong, a GTX460 does not provide the same performance as my 6990 at 1920 x 1200 min frame wise.

I also go the card for less than you paid for you processor

You are correct though, for a budget gaming PC like yours, it does perform very well
    
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Way to ruin another thread. Bravo.
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It is getting tedious isnt it.
    
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Guys, stock 6970 beats stock 570 with the latest Cat 11.4 drivers:













Of course, there will be those games that favor AMD cards (F1) or Nvidia cards more (HAWX 2). When both cards are overclocked, it provides about 5-6 frames more performance for most games. Both cards will achieve about the same performance gains.
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Peoples circumstances are different for each PC which is the thing you seem to fail to grasp in most of your replies. And your wrong, a GTX460 does not provide the same performance as my 6990 at 1920 x 1200 min frame wise.

I also go the card for less than you paid for you processor

You are correct though, for a budget gaming PC like yours, it does perform very well
Indeed it does, I never spent a lot and I get amazing performance from it.

Performance I couldn't achieve with a Phenom II, and in the end thats all that really matters. My system performs at its peak, whereas if I had a Phenom II I'd be a sad panda looking at how much money I wasted with low gpu usage.

There are to many opinions to really make a case.

My viewpoint is I wanted to spend X amount of money and get Y performance from it. I bought some cheap 470s, overclocked the crap out of them, and got performance that exceed my expectations. I don't believe in the 60 fps is all you can see or is all that matters ideology that seems to be going on. I believe in getting 100% of what I paid for. I don't care if that 100% is equating to 25 fps, or 255 fps, I paid for my graphics cards and I want them providing every ounce of performance they have available.

I'm always down for a bench off, if you're feeling up to it I am more than happy to compare your system to mine.

We could (and we have) sit here all day going back and fourth arguing stupid things that are of no consequence. However there still remains several undeniable truths.

1) Phenom II chips bottleneck mid ranged single cards at 1080p.

2) Phenom II chips perform poorly with Nvidia graphics cards due to a lack of performance.

3) Phenom II chips provide sub standard fps compared to their Intel counter-parts when using the same hardware.

4) Phenom II chips cost vs performance ratio goes downhill quickly when you start adding more gpu power.

5) Intel currently provides the best solution for mid to high end gaming platforms.

6) Intels new Sandy Bridge cpus specifically the i5-2500k provides amazing price vs performance starting out at the mid level gpu area and continues to improve with more gpu power.

7) The current price difference between the i5-2500k and AMDs x6 and higher end Phenom II x4 chips is quite small, despite the gross difference in performance when it comes to gaming with higher end systems.

8) When building a mid-high performance system today there is only one option, Sandy Bridge.
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And thats the point, maybe im not getting full GPU usage now, but when i do upgrade I will, and maybe when that time comes, it might actually make a difference.

But lets be honest, although you werent getting 100% usage when you had a Phenom II do you notice much of a difference, if at all? (without looking at afterburners GPU usage meter?)
    
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Fanboy thread is filled with fanboys.


Ps. 2500k is in for the win.

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And thats the point, maybe im not getting full GPU usage now, but when i do upgrade I will, and maybe when that time comes, it might actually make a difference.

But lets be honest, although you werent getting 100% usage when you had a Phenom II do you notice much of a difference, if at all? (without looking at afterburners GPU usage meter?)
It depends upon the game you play. For games like Civ 5, it is extremely CPU limited. Intel Core i5/i7's perform the best here. In other games that are more GPU limited with 4xAA/16xAF, it won't impact your gameplay.
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why must there be so much calling people fanboys? it doesn't help anything and only brings you into the firing line.

locked. please be civil in future.
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