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P8P67 Deluxe with sound card or Maximus IV without?

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I'm trying to decide if I should get an ASUS P8P67 Deluxe board with a sound card or a Maximus IV without a sound card. Basically, here's the situation...

I'm finalizing the parts of a PC I'm trying to build, and right now, the motherboard is the last piece of the puzzle. At first I was pretty dead set on getting an ASUS P8P67 Deluxe board, until I saw the Maximus IV. I really liked what I saw when it came to the IV, but the problem is that I'm planning on getting x2 580 MSI Lightning cards along with a sound card as well, and the placement of the PCI/PCIe slots on the IV isn't that great. Basically, if I went with x2 MSI 580 Lightning cards on a IV board and put at least one slots worth of space between the two cards, I wouldn't have room for a sound card. The only way to get a sound card to fit on the board would be to mush the two 580s together at the bottom PCIe slots, which I definitely don't want to do.

On the other hand though, if I went with a Deluxe board, I could put in a sound card on the top PCIex1 slot and then put the two 580s in the PCIe slots below, which would allow the 580 cards to have at least a single slots worth of space between them for some breathing room.

So basically, that's my dilemma. Would it be worth it to upgrade to the IV board over the Deluxe board at the cost of not being able to use a sound card? Or is the OCing potential/general performance of the Deluxe board similar enough to the IV board that I would just be better off getting the Deluxe board + a sound card?

Kind of really torn on this, because either way, I'd still be spending the same amount of money. So any advice would be appreciated.
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You can put a sound card in one of the red slots or the black x4 slot at the bottom on the Maximus IV.

You can put the graphics cards where I colored violet. Sound card can go in the red slots.



Or you could do this:


Sound card can go in the bottom black x4 slot or red slot in between the video cards.
Edited by Riou - 4/22/11 at 11:39pm
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I have a brand new maximus iv extreme if you are interested
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You can put a sound card in one of the red slots or the black x4 slot at the bottom on the Maximus IV.
Like I mentioned, I want to try and keep at least one slots worth of space between the two 580 cards, which means that I wouldn't be able to use any of the red slots. The top red slot and the pciex1 slot would be taken up by the first 580, the second pcie slot would be empty, and then the next two red slots would be taken up by the second 580, which just leaves the bottom pciex4 slot like you mentioned. But I'm worried that putting a sound card below two MSI 580 lightning cards would overheat the sound card kind of badly.

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Or you could do this:


Sound card can go in the bottom black x4 slot or red slot in between the video cards.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about doing. But like I mentioned above, I'd be worried about the kind of heat the sound card might take. I also want to try and avoid activating the NF200 chip with only x2 580s (since there is a noted performance drop with the NF200 thing & only 2-way SLI @ x16/x16 in comparison to x8/x8), which is why I wanted to avoid doing that first thing you mentioned.
Edited by nekroturkey - 4/22/11 at 11:44pm
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking about doing. But like I mentioned above, I'd be worried about the kind of heat the sound card might take.
Well on the P8P67 Deluxe, the sound card will still get a lot of heat.


The sound card will still be in between a GTX 580 and the Megahalems. The 580 Lightning SLI dumps the heat in the case, so it will still get quite hot inside.
Edited by Riou - 4/22/11 at 11:49pm
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Well on the P8P67 Deluxe, the sound card will still get a lot of heat.


The sound card will still be in between a GTX 580 and the Megahalems. The 580 Lightning SLI dumps the heat in the case so it will still get quite hot inside regardless.
This is actually for a completely new PC I'm building, not the one that I have now. So I wouldn't be using the Megahalems, but instead the Corsair H70 cooler.

Also yeah, I remember reading that the 580 lightning dumps the heat into the case instead of out the exhaust. But I'm not sure if the sound card would be heated up more by being at the bottom of two 580s as opposed to being at the top. A few people I talked to mentioned that it would be better to put it at the top of the two cards as opposed to the bottom. Or would it really matter?
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Depends what sound card you have, I have the xense so when I had the deluxe it was at the very top. I now have the MIVE and it's placed at the very bottom.

As far as OC potential goes, the same OC @5ghz I was able to lower the Vcore about .300 with the MIVE with practically the same settings (MIVE having slightly more tweaking).
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Well on the P8P67 Deluxe, the sound card will still get a lot of heat.


The sound card will still be in between a GTX 580 and the Megahalems. The 580 Lightning SLI dumps the heat in the case, so it will still get quite hot inside.
This.
I would go with the Maximus setup, with the sound card at the bottom slot. Placing it on either end of the cards will generate some heat. But placing it next to the CPU sink would IMO have more of an adverse effect than next to the lower 580.
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This.
I would go with the Maximus setup, with the sound card at the bottom slot. Placing it on either end of the cards will generate some heat. But placing it next to the CPU sink would IMO have more of an adverse effect than next to the lower 580.
I can attest that there's no difference, the xense producing even more heat than your average sound card. And that's when I had 2 6970s running stock cooling inside the case with the sound card at the top. OP is more worried about the sc affecting his gpus vice-versa, which it would considering the frozr III has
2 fans large fans drawing intake.
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I can attest that there's no difference, the xense producing even more heat than your average sound card. And that's when I had 2 6970s running stock cooling inside the case with the sound card at the top. OP is more worried about the sc affecting his gpus vice-versa, which it would considering the frozr III has
2 fans large fans drawing intake.
I'm not so much worried about how the sound card will affect the GPUs as I am about how the GPUs will affect the sound card. I was worried that the two 580 lightning cards would heat up the sound card pretty badly if I were to put a sound card at the very bottom of the two cards on the IV board. Like I mentioned, some people I talked to recommended putting the sound card on the top as opposed to the bottom to prevent the sound card from overheating. That's pretty much why I'm stuck choosing between the Deluxe board and the IV board, since the only place I'd be able to put a sound card on the IV board would be at the bottom of the two 580s, whereas with the Deluxe I could put it above them. But if the sound card ends up getting just as hot if placed at the bottom as it would if placed at the top, then I think I might just go with the IV board/bottom pciex4 config.

But would the sound card run into heat issues if placed at the bottom? And if so, I pretty much just go back to my original question of having to choose between a deluxe+sound card or the IV minus the sound card.
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