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I hope the community can help me here, this is what I've been debating for some time. Before reading, please do not consider price as a factor.

Models I'm interested in:
580: MSI Lightning
590: EVGA Classified

Concerns:
  • Performance
  • Micro-stutter?
  • Noise
  • Heat

Few things to keep in mind:
  • Whichever of these cards are decided, they will be run in SLI
  • Assuming that these both have fan controls of some sort, I'm sure I can lock the fan speed at a certain rate, so I guess that should be kept in mind while comparing.
  • The 590 Classified will most likely be run stock, or very light overclocking. The 580 Lightnings will be overclocked.
  • I plan to run this on a 1920 x 1080p screen. Before you call this overkill, I am looking to get an average of 120fps for every game, and hopefully some future ones (BF3, Skyrim, Diablo 3, etc..). 3D means nothing to me, fluidity does
  • This will be run off an i7-2600k OC'd processor
  • Motherboard has only *2* slots for GPU's
  • There is no room in my case for a watercooling solution, it's strictly constructed to be air-cooled
  • I at the moment (just began to) live in Arizona, and there is so much damn heat
  • The computer is situated quite near to me, so I'd really prefer minimal noise

My Specific Computer Build:
Case: RV01
CPU: i7-2600K OC'd @ 5Ghz
GPU: TBD
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Power Supply: AX1200
SSD: Vertex 3 120GB
Memory: Corsair 16GB 1600Mhz
Monitor: AW2310 120Hz
CPU Cooler:Corsair H60
GPU Cooler: Air

GPU Budget: $1500

It is quite difficult to find a review comparing 590 SLI vs 580 SLI, let alone an overclocked Lightning model, so I was hoping the community would be able to assist here. I planned to purchase the 590's in SLI, but began to worry of heat/noise, and thought that maybe the 580 Lightning SLI OC'd would be close in performance as most benchmarks I've seen of the 590's in SLI show the cards as not having any substantial improvement over a single 590, except in few DX11 games, I assume due to Quad-GPU scaling? Also interested in which solution would offer less heat/noise.

I don't need an absolutely silent computer, that would be nice, but probably impossible running on air. So I'm looking for the least heat/noise, with the most performance throughput, and it's between these two models in SLI. I am unaware of how the 580 and 590 compare in terms of heat/noise, and have very minimal knowledge on how they compare in performance.
Edited by Scytus - 4/23/11 at 10:20pm
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If you have to pick one of those two solutions, I say the 580s are a better bet. Two GPU sli is much more consistent than quad sli, and you can always add a third 580 down the road if you need it (it will be a while). That being said, at that resolution, it really is overkill, even for what you describe. If you must go super high end, what about duel 570s? Much cheaper and not a huge performance difference. You could also consider a single 580. What you lose in raw fps, you gain in not having any microstutter. Honestly, with a single gpu, 45+ fps is smooth as butter, where as with multi gpu solutions, I sometimes feel micro stutter even when getting above 60 fps.

Edit: Just to follow up on my recommendation of a single 580, in a year, if you decide you want more overkill to supermax the newest games, 580s will be much cheaper and you can grab a second (or even two more) for way less cash. Also, fill in your specs so we can see what you're working with.
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First of all, the human eye can see only up to 60FPS. So wanting a "minimum of 120FPS" is just absolutely pointless.

Regardless of that, the 590 Quad-SLI will demolish the GTX-580 SLI. In fact, the GTX-590 Quad-SLI apparently outperforms GTX-580 Tri-SLI. 4 GTX-580s will beat the GTX-590 Quad-SLI however.

If you're getting "two" cards, go with the EVGA GTX-590 Quad-SLI.
     
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by saying 590 sli , you mean two-GTX 590, you'll be running quad sli VS. 2-GTX 580????

590 come with two GPU
580 one GPU
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If you have to pick one of those two solutions, I say the 580s are a better bet. Two GPU sli is much more consistent than quad sli, and you can always add a third 580 down the road if you need it (it will be a while). That being said, at that resolution, it really is overkill, even for what you describe. If you must go super high end, what about duel 570s? Much cheaper and not a huge performance difference. You could also consider a single 580. What you lose in raw fps, you gain in not having any microstutter. Honestly, with a single gpu, 45+ fps is smooth as butter, where as with multi gpu solutions, I sometimes feel micro stutter even when getting above 60 fps.

Edit: Just to follow up on my recommendation of a single 580, in a year, if you decide you want more overkill to supermax the newest games, 580s will be much cheaper and you can grab a second (or even two more) for way less cash. Also, fill in your specs so we can see what you're working with.
Cost shouldn't be a factor, so the dual 570's or adding another 580 down the line wouldn't work quite well for me. I'm also sorry I should've mentioned that my motherboard can only support 2 GPU's.

I'm strictly interested in a 590 vs 580 Lightning OC comparison. These cards should be able to last a year or two running a constant 120fps in most future games that come out.
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I'm with Varjo in that the 580s are better. The lightning is an all around amazing card, and add in that u can use more than 2 down the road....or immediately is price isn't a thing (wish I could say the same haha), and u have a big enough case. Of course the heat from the 580s may be a lil more especially if they're overclocked, but u will more than be happy with those for sure.
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Originally Posted by Baasha View Post
First of all, the human eye can see only up to 60FPS. So wanting a "minimum of 120FPS" is just absolutely pointless.

Regardless of that, the 590 Quad-SLI will demolish the GTX-580 SLI. In fact, the GTX-590 Quad-SLI apparently outperforms GTX-580 Tri-SLI. 4 GTX-580s will beat the GTX-590 Quad-SLI however.

If you're getting "two" cards, go with the EVGA GTX-590 Quad-SLI.
Absolutely false, you should research that; or better yet view a 120Hz monitor being run at 120fps.

I understand that 590's are more powerful than the 580's, but that doesnt mean they scale as well.

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by saying 590 sli , you mean two-GTX 590, you'll be running quad sli VS. 2-GTX 580????

590 come with two GPU
580 one GPU
I'm aware, but scaling is an issue.
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Quote:
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First of all, the human eye can see only up to 60FPS. So wanting a "minimum of 120FPS" is just absolutely pointless.
false. Humans do not process visual information with individual frames, and thus the claim of only seeing up to X fps is not correct.

And yes I agree that at some point you'll be hard pressed to see the difference but it most definitely is not at 60fps.

to OP: Any possibility of going maybe tri-SLI 580s? if not then I'd go for the 590s personally. The VRM problems are overhyped and the cards clock pretty well. Only problem at the moment are the drivers that are somewhat inconsistent especially in benchies.

sorry read your post better, so no tri-cards :/
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ooops just saw the motherboard comment....dual 590s ftw! lol.
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IF i would you i go with two-GTX 580 SLI
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