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Linkback to main thread here - New Sandy Bridge Build - Silicon Iceâ„¢

Basically, I am building a relatively high-end PC which I want to water cool. CPU + GFX under water. Main thread is linked above, however, I am posting here as the threads and traffic here are probably going to be more related to water-cooling over here.

Any advice/comments will be appreciated! Thanks a lot!
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I'd go for the Laing D5 (Swiftech MCP 655) if you don't want to spend money on a top, or go for the MCP355 and a top.

You can get integrated res/pump tops for each pump model.

Radiator, are you looking for low noise or is noise not a factor? Low noise means low-speed fans which would fit best with the EK or XSPC RX, the Black Ice GTX is better in high airflow scenarios but the higher fin density means higher noise.

Fans, Yate Loons are awesome for the price, or Scythe Gentle Typhoons

I recommend EK blocks for both CPU and GPU, make sure you get the new design on the GPUs, that uses the microchannel style instead of the original waves.

To save money on fittings I'd suggest 1/2" barbs with 7/16" ID tubing stretched over them. That's tight enough to run without clamps, I'd use BP or DD Fat Boy barbs. Tubing, either Primo or Tygon is good, just look for what fits your size needs.
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Thanks for replying.

Ok so a 655 is a little bit more expensive than 355 alone, but 355 + top makes the 655 look cheaper in comparison. So I should go for the 655 instead then? I couldn't understand how the top helps the 355.

I don't mind noise, seeing as my current PC is in my bedroom sounding like half an airplane already. Although I also wouldn't mind having both a quieter and cooler new PC with the new build. So, EK rad + Gentle Typhoons?

My concern here is for the loop, will a 360 be enough to cool it down (considering here in Singapore ambients are 32-33C), mainly an OC'ed 2600k and probably OC'ed SLI 580s as well?

And how to tell it's the new design of blocks? I see only one lineup in the GPU blocks page of local e-tailer.

I have also considered getting a fan controller, but I'd think I'd be too lazy to bother turning it down (I always leave my current GFX fans on 100%), and get the cool looking touch-screen ones just for the aesthetics.
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XSPC RX360's are designed to run better with lower-speed fans due to their high FPI (fins per inch) measurement. This radiator would be perfect to cool a CPU and GPU (I know from experience). With three GT AP-15's on, turned down via a fan controller, they're whisper quiet.

As for pump, the 655 would be quieter as you can adjust the speed setting however 355's with a top are also strong competitors. It really depends how much space you have inside your case for the pump. Either would be perfect for your loop, one would not outperform the other for a simple CPU + GPU combo.

For overclocked 580's though, in SLI, you might be pushing it a little with a 360. It should be fine but don't expect the lowest temperatures in the world, especially with your ambient. You may be better going with a Black Ice GTX and some noisier fans given your environment since noise isn't an issue for you.
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1) A top increases flow rate, sometimes by a lot. There is a review somewhere that compared them all...and XSPC typically comes out on top. If you're going with the 355, then you probably are going to want to get a top. Also, the 355 stock only comes with 3/8" plastic barbs. The top allows you to fit any g1/4 fittings...so if you're going compression then you have no choice but to get a top. Fortunately they're cheap (like 20$).

2) Yes a 360 will be "enough"...although enough depends on what you consider enough. I have 2x470s, CPU, and a full MB block and only use a 360. Everything is overclocked and my temps are good unless i'm really straining my system. After 24 hours of straight folding, my GPUs are at 52 and my CPU is at 70. Although, I should note that my ambient room temp varies from 22-27C, which is a bit cooler than you experience.

3) Instead of adding another rad, consider a push-pull system. I'm running push pull with P-15s (1800rpm) and I noticed a nice drop in temps when I added the second set of fans. Remember that if you add another Rad then you're decreasing the flow rate. In my opinion, adding a 2nd rad isn't worth it unless you put a 2nd 360 - that is, don't bother with just a 120 or even 240. Perhaps you could just use a 480 instead of a 360?

4) I agree about the fan controller. I have a fancy one that looks cool, but I never adjust anything lol

5) Finally if you don't care at all about noise, then it doesn't really matter which rad you get. They all perform about the same once you hit ~1800 RPM. Check out the review here
http://skinneelabs.com/triple-radiator-comparison-v2/
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Some lists I have picked out so far.

From local e-tailer (price in Sing dollars) :


From Sidewinder (price in US dollars) :


Some parts not available so had to switch around. Ideally if I can get all from one place as multiple shippings cost a lot more, plus if can save would be good as well.

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does acetel / nickel / plexi-acrylic affect temps much? i tend to go for plexi for the see-through
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does acetel / nickel / plexi-acrylic affect temps much? i tend to go for plexi for the see-through
They are all made from a copper base - Acetal, Nickel, Plexi are all just coatings. Get whichever one appeals to you the most. Personally, I prefer the Nickel/Acetal version.
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