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Lol, the G500 is a downgrade from the MX518. Fact. Worse sensor, worse weight, probably worse lift off distance, worse sensor position and worse price.
Edited by cuad - 4/23/11 at 4:54pm
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post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by cuad;13246575 
Lol, the G500 is a downgrade.

Care to explain why? Most of the issues that were pointed out were simply personal. I used both and found the G500 more enjoyable to use. In any case, I can just return it. I have 30 days.
    
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It's up there. You got me before I could edit. I read the gizmodo review and it's terrible. He's just crying about the buttons, which just as you say, are meaningless since they are his personal issues.
Edited by cuad - 4/23/11 at 4:53pm
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post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by cuad;13246575 
Lol, the G500 is a downgrade from the MX518. Fact. Worse sensor, worse weight, probably worse LOD, worse sensor position and worse price.

So, how is the sensor worse? I prefer the heavier weight of the G500. Price is only $7 difference at the store, so pretty irrelevant. But I would like to know how the sensor is inferior. If it is, I could go ahead and return it and get the MX518.
    
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;13246663 
So, how is the sensor worse? I prefer the heavier weight of the G500. Price is only $7 difference at the store, so pretty irrelevant. But I would like to know how the sensor is inferior. If it is, I could go ahead and return it and get the MX518.

stolen from some noob's crappy mouse guide:
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The newest laser sensor [avago adns9500], which is in the Logitech G500, the Logitech G9X, and the Steel Series Xai, can handle high speed movements. However, there is one big problem with these new sensors: unfixable acceleration within the sensor itself. It is literally measurable (see pictures below).

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I don't understand this graph, but what I do understand is that acceleration is bad bad bad bad badb abd adb adb abd abd, .

If you can, see if the store you're buying at will price match.
Edited by cuad - 4/23/11 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by cuad;13246701 
stolen from some noob's crappy mouse guide:



I don't understand this graph, but what I do understand is that acceleration is bad bad bad bad badb abd adb adb abd abd, .

If you can, see if the store you're buying at will price match.

So the acceleration is not flat? As you start moving it acceleration will be faster and then go down? I imagine the reason they did this is for very fast paced games, where after a certain distance you need higher acceleration to do things faster.
    
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post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by cuad;13246701 

If you can, see if the store you're buying at will price match.

Yeah, I should. The MX518 is regularly found for ~$35.
    
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;13246751 
So the acceleration is not flat? As you start moving it acceleration will be faster and then go down? I imagine the reason they did this is for very fast paced games, where after a certain distance you need higher acceleration to do things faster.

The reason I hate acceleration is because I'm convinced that it hinders muscle memory. For example, without acceleration, if I move my mouse 5 inches to the left, my cursor will always move 5 inches across my screen regardless of how fast I move my mouse.

With acceleration. The distance your cursor moves will depend on how fast you move your mouse and how far. While I guess it's not impossible to develop muscle memory accounting for speed and distance, I would argue that it would be significantly harder than just remembering distance.
Edited by cuad - 4/23/11 at 5:14pm
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post #19 of 28
I would have to say hands down the G500. Comfort, it kicks ass as an FPS mouse or if you want to customize it for RTSes or MMOs.
I love the feel of it, thinking about buying another one so I can take it with me when I travel with my laptop.
post #20 of 28
G500 might (never tried it, don't know for sure) have a better shape then MX518, but it uses the same laser as Xai, avago adns9500 as mentioned above, which i found just... awful after a year of use. Possitive acceleration at normal movements and negative acceleration at fast movements, on cloth pad (qck heavy), made me return it and get back to MX518 which I used before. Its prediction could be a problem for some people, but I don't mind it. Only thing I mind is that it's working at 125Hz polling rate by default, and a third party software is needed for higher polling rates.
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