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I got it 3.6 max. its the c2 stepping core. Bsods if i go any higher. Tried multiple things. My motherboard supports pci-e 2.0 2 x16 crossfire. full bandwidth or w.e.

I keep getting mixed answers. Does anyone have benchmarks or anything exp using a similiar set up to this?
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Open up task manger and msi afterburner in the background of whatever you want to test. Then test and check utilization on the cpu and gpus for which is the bottleneck in that test. Dependent on application and situation there should be times where you are gpu limited and times where you are cpu limited.
Edited by RichardS - 4/24/11 at 12:38am
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^

Honestly, you probably won't, but do what RichardS said to be sure.
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Can you describe your full system a little (and include the PSU details).
What resolutions you play and what games ,so other people confirm your specific issue?
   
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i have a quad sli or crossfire 700watt raidmax. and ill be playing at 1080p and games like BF3, cod, source, wow, LOL, and any other game in the same category.
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Originally Posted by quesoblanco View Post
i have a quad sli or crossfire 700watt raidmax. and ill be playing at 1080p and games like BF3, cod, source, wow, LOL, and any other game in the same category.
I would still recommend checking each with MSI afterburner / task manager.

Here is my experience from some of those games checking MSI afterburner / task manager. Note this is also personal experience and some is recollection. It varies depending a great deal on what is happening in game. Clcoks used in testing have run 3.0/2.0nb (stock) to 3.5/2.4nb (overclocked last winter) and in between. Hot weather in Florida has had me already turn clocks back to stock for the summer:

BFBC2 (for BF3) with FRAPS: all high ingame settings 1080p 4xaa/16xaf, running around smaller areas will be ~80% gpu usage on each gpu @~55-60fps, buildings / vehicles blowing up / destruction 2.0 spikes down to low gpu usage cpu limited hits min around 20-30fps dependent on situation, sniping across a long distance map with less players will often be gpu limited and depending on draw distance will be 45-65+ fps @ 95-99% gpu usage on each gpu

CS:Source hits the frame rate cap (300fps) when not in action cpu limited in action never seen both gpus maxed usually both closer to ~40-60%

Mass Effect 2 is an interesting case study, though not on your list. At 1080p with 4xaa (box) forced in CCC, will change vastly depending on level. Some of the smaller stations (Omega / Citadel) will hit vsync 60fps with about ~50-60% gpu. When entering scripted in game conversations, both gpus will max ~97-99% with 30-40fps. The in game conversation pieces use higher quality in game graphics than when running around. Some of the large outdoor battle levels (think fighting the Collusus on the mission to rescue Tali) with drop down towards 30-40fps with gpu usage varying constantly between 70-99%. The battle stresses both the gpu and cpu from moment to moment.

I know this is a lot of anecdotal information, but hopefully answers some of your questions. Also take note of the thought process here, it is not a single limitation on your system at all times, it is very application and situation dependent. You really should do your own testing to get comfortable with the capabilities and limitations of your system.
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As RichardS pointed out, it totally depends on the game. CPU intensive games like BC2 and Starcraft II probably won't perform optimally with your Phenom II, but not POORLY either. As you turn your detail settings higher, your CPU matters less. So games like Crysis Warhead at 1080p with Enthusiast settings and 4x AA shouldn't take much of an FPS hit (if at all) due to your CPU.
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lol no. not all games are coded to be very gpu intensive. a 965 +2x 6850's is a rather balanced system.
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lol no. not all games are coded to be very gpu intensive. a 965 +2x 6850's is a rather balanced system.
r u bottlenecked in any games u play?
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r u bottlenecked in any games u play?
Solitare and Minesweeper. Can't seem to get 100% load.
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