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I don't want to discourage you, but even 4GHz will be hard on X38 with a Q9550. Remember that you'll need a board that can do 471 FSB in order to get 4GHz and around 500 FSB to get 4,2GHz. I'd just save up for an i5 or Bulldozer, the Q9550 isn't worth it anymore IMO. I know the Q9550 an easy and cheap solution for you though......
it can do 500FSB and it goes up to 750fsb
I got my pent d up to 5ghz(did not like the temps tho)
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it can do 500FSB
I got my pent d up to 5ghz
If you get a good board and chip, but getting a quad core to do 500 is alot different than a single core.

Either way it "should" hit 471, or at least close to it anyways.
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it can do 500FSB
I got my pent d up to 5ghz
Even so OC'ing a C2Q past 4GHz on X38 is extremely hard. You might actually get pretty far though. If it's not too expensive I hope you can get your hands on a nice E0 Q9550. It will still be a bottleneck but you are the one who will have to decide if the performance is sufficient after all. Good luck with your choice
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If you get a good board and chip, but getting a quad core to do 500 is alot different than a single core.

Either way it "should" hit 471, or at least close to it anyways.
my cpu is a duel core
its a pentium duel core
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Even so OC'ing a C2Q past 4GHz on X38 is extremely hard. You might actually get pretty far though. If it's not too expensive I hope you can get your hands on a nice E0 Q9550. It will still be a bottleneck but you are the one who will have to decide if the performance is sufficient after all. Good luck with your choice
ya I know what I'm doing
I have an abit board
their boards are designed for overclocking
they make asus and gigabyte board look like junk in that field IMO
people thought I was nuts to get a Tualatin PIII for my abit be6-II (440BX chipsets) setup way back

but I moded a slocket and got the cpu up to 1.7ghz


EDIT: here is someone who got 4ghz
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t.../RaidurVID.jpg
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my cpu is a duel core
its a pentium duel core


ya I know what I'm doing
I have an abit board
their boards are designed for overclocking
and make asus and gigabyte board look like junk in that field IMO
people thought I was nuts to get a Tualatin PIII for my abit be6-II (440BX chipsets) set way back

but I moded a slocket and got the cpu up to 1.7ghz
I didn't doubt that

It takes quite some skill and the appropriate tools to get a Wolfdale @ 5GHz too. I've ran my Q9550 780i setup for a long time and I wouldn't advise people to upgrade to a C2Q setup if they want to run dual 470s.

Note these Vantage scores for example:

i7 2600K @ stock and GTX 470 SLI (794/1588/1715)

http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3081088;jsess...NL9mbMcPjJqfXR


vs Q9550 @ 3.91


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I didn't doubt that

It takes quite some skill and the appropriate tools to get a Wolfdale @ 5GHz too. I've ran my Q9550 780i setup for a long time and I wouldn't advise people to upgrade to a C2Q setup if they want to run dual 470s.

Note these Vantage scores for example:

i7 2600K @ stock and GTX 470 SLI (794/1588/1715)

http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3081088;jsess...NL9mbMcPjJqfXR


vs Q9550 @ 3.91

what was the ram in the C2Q setup
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what was the ram in the C2Q setup
Some DDR2 800MHz set. 2x 2GB Corsair XMS2 DHX.

EDIT:

Low score on the Yorkfield huh

EDIT2:

Here's my single GTX 470 and Q9550


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Some DDR2 800MHz set. 2x 2GB Corsair XMS2 DHX.

EDIT:

Low score on the Yorkfield huh
don't know
just wanted to know what ram was in the system

EDIT:
I should have a higher score then that one
seeing that my ram is way better
not shore how much tho
probably not to much higher
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So your telling me that a game that someone at 1680x1050 can max out, someone at 1920x1200 wont be able to? lul. If anything the cards are bottlenecked by the lower resolution.
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First off, you really need to learn a little bit more about computers and graphics cards.

now let me learn you something.

The lower the resolution, the less it uses the GPU and the more it uses the CPU. The higher the resolution, the more it uses the GPU and less it uses the CPU.

that is why benchmarks geared toward CPU performance run at super low resolutions, and ones for the video card, run at really high resolutions.
You guys both kinda fail here, esp. you Thrasher since you're acting all high and mighty ... and then not really being accurate

The cards themselves don't get 'bottlenecked by lower resolutions'. Lower resolution is always easier for cards to run. IOW, all else being equal there should never be any scenario where performance is worse at a lower resolution vs. a higher one. It might be equal (which would indicate a severe CPU bottleneck in effect), but it shouldn't ever be lower.

And of course it's *possible* that one could max out a game at 1680x1050, and not be able to max it out at 1920x1200. I mean, this is the most basic concept there is in all the gfx card world. Higher resolution = harder for the GPU to run. The CPU is not really relevant to this equation.

AFA Thrasher's point goes: when a game is run, the GPU has it's tasks to perform, and the CPU has it's tasks to perform, and these do not change with the resolution. There is only a tiny difference in the amount of work the CPU has to do at 800x600 vs. 2560x1600 per frame rendered.

The reason low resolutions are used for CPU-tests is because lower resolutions will run at a much higher FPS, due to the gpu having an easy time with the set of tasks it needs to perform. And the higher the FPS, the more likely it becomes that the scenario will be CPU-limited, as the CPU is being asked to perform it's set of tasks in a much shorter timeframe. Creating a scenario where the performance is CPU-limited is how you test the CPU.

@James: your rig is gonna be kickass dude. Yes, there are scenarios where you won't get the same FPS as other people with faster chips, i.e. you will get some CPU-bottlenecking in certain scenarios. Crysis is likely to be one of those scenarios, because despite a claim upthread that it's 'gpu-dependent', the fact is: Crysis makes some pretty serious CPU demands as well. Your cpu will start to exhibit signs of bottlenecking at around 40fps when you run the game on Very High.
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Thanks Brett and everyone who posted. I do realize that there will be a bit of a bottleneck but not by much. The q9550 at 3.9 in vantage scored 20k and I score roughly 16k with a single card. If I can break 20-22k in vantage and 24-26k in 06 I'll be happy.

Sometime this summer i will get SB (sabertooth P67, ripjaws 1600, and 2600k) I will transfer my PSU, HDD, graphics cards, case, and WC setup so I can probably get away with upgrading to SB for like 6-800 bucks
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB 7200RPM DVDRW Stock Windows XP 32 (for the time being) 
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Dell 22" 1680x1050 Corsair CX430 
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