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I picked up one of the Zotac 465 for $130 at Microcenter and I'm loving it! Unfortunately I don't think mines flashable. I tried it multiple times with different Bios and nothing :/ Good luck with the card
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If you use the same card at the same clocks, with the same ram at the same speeds, but change the platform and the fps are different than one platform is slower than the other.
Of course it is slower but that isn't what a bottleneck is.
 
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I think it's funny that the new trend on OCN is to hate on Balla.

OP, I think you should go with the GTX 460 as well. From what I understand, it's better (yet cheaper?) than a GTX 560.
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I would not worry too much about "bottlenecking" unless he is running SLI. OP is not running SLI. OP should just get the fastest card within his budget. A 460 1GB is a good card and he does not have to worry about any severe bottlenecks. Phenom II quad core clocked to around 3.6-4.0 GHz will allow him to play most of his games at good frame rates.

Here are some benchmarks at 1920x1200:



















Even a 5870 and GTX 480 are not "bottlenecked" that much in most games by AMD CPU. There are some games like Starcraft II and Civilization V that perform much better on i7's. However, that seems to be the exception to the norm.

If he is just getting a GTX 460 1GB, his CPU should be fine for most games. Even a GTX 560 Ti 1GB would be fine.
Edited by Riou - 4/25/11 at 12:50am
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OP, I think you should go with the GTX 460 as well. From what I understand, it's better (yet cheaper?) than a GTX 560.
GTX 560Ti is way better than GTX 460. Actually I don't even know if there is a GTX 560 but the Ti model. Still I think 560Ti would be a safe buy for this guy. I'm not saying he shouldn't buy 460, he just stated he wanted the most powerful card he could get that doesn't get bottlenecked by his CPU. 460 would be a great buy also, heck, I use 5770 - which is somewhat inferior to 460 - at my 1680*1050 screen and I'm perfectly happy with the framerates I'm getting from such games as Crysis 2 and BFBC2.
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There is an art in balancing cpu price/performance with gpu price/performance.

I think if the OP got a 560ti he could add a bit more AA or detail to his overall gameplay and not lose out much over a 460.

However I *personally* don't think that performance gain is going to be worth the $100 additional cost the 560 has over the 460.

I mean in reality the OP could probably get a 580 and force the settings so high it would bring the 580 to its knees in many games.

However for general use x4 AA is more than enough, and I don't think the difference between a 460 on a AMD chip and a 560 is really worth nearly twice the price. If anything get the 460 and once you upgrade to a AM3+ board for a future BD upgrade snag another 460 for sub $100 by then.
    
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
There is an art in balancing cpu price/performance with gpu price/performance.

I think if the OP got a 560ti he could add a bit more AA or detail to his overall gameplay and not lose out much over a 460.

However I *personally* don't think that performance gain is going to be worth the $100 additional cost the 560 has over the 460.

I mean in reality the OP could probably get a 580 and force the settings so high it would bring the 580 to its knees in many games.

However for general use x4 AA is more than enough, and I don't think the difference between a 460 on a AMD chip and a 560 is really worth nearly twice the price. If anything get the 460 and once you upgrade to a AM3+ board for a future BD upgrade snag another 460 for sub $100 by then.
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GTX 560 Ti isn't that much faster than a GTX 460,anything less than a overclocked GTX570 will not be a bottleneck.
What?

GeForce GTX 560 Ti review
NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 560 Ti: Upsetting The $250 Market
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Roundup: ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte & MSI

Roughly 20%-33% faster most of the time is a decent bit to me.
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Yeah but they're comparing a 460 at 675 core vs a 560 at 820 core.

I'm sure once overclocked the difference is much less than what review sites show.
    
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