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Originally Posted by jcrew3002 View Post
What Nvidia Video card will bottleneck a Phenom II X4 840?
9400gt, 7800gt, or pretty much any videocard before the gtx 200 series will bottleneck a phenom II.
Get at least a GTX 260 or higher.
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Balla is right, the best gpu's atm are bottlenecked on any amd cpu. But the thing all of you are missing is that we are talking about +60 FPS, do you really see the diffrence between 100 and 140FPS ?? If you want no bottleneck then get 4 screens, it will be a gpu bottleneck for sure then. (unless you have trisli 580).
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This CPU is intended as a X4 for the masses ,so it should be combined with a middle range GPU like Nvidia 450/460 or ATI 5770 ,5850 or 6xxx equivalents.
It s common sense.

And the bottleneck is when no matter what card you add you gain nothing more.
The fact that the performance is not scaling identically to Intel is normal ,having in mind the architecture of the CPU and the price of the CPU.
You can t expect from a 100 dollar CPU to perform as a 200+ CPU.Thats why you buy AMD to get good 100$ CPU-s ,good value for the money.
   
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post #94 of 134
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Originally Posted by edalbkrad View Post
9400gt, 7800gt, or pretty much any videocard before the gtx 200 series will bottleneck a phenom II.
Get at least a GTX 260 or higher.
You're on a Phenom I,Phenom II is greatly improved over Phenom I.
A old 7800GT,9400GT,or GTX2xx will not "bottleneck" A Phenom II.
It takes a GTX570 or 580 to bottleneck a CPU.

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Originally Posted by Dromihetes View Post
This CPU is intended as a X4 for the masses ,so it should be combined with a middle range GPU like Nvidia 450/460 or ATI 5770 ,5850 or 6xxx equivalents.
It s common sense.

And the bottleneck is when no matter what card you add you gain nothing more.
The fact that the performance is not scaling identically to Intel is normal ,having in mind the architecture of the CPU and the price of the CPU.
You can t expect from a 100 dollar CPU to perform as a 200+ CPU.Thats why you buy AMD to get good 100$ CPU-s ,good value for the money.
^That. If you've got a $100 CPU why would you buy a $400 graphics card?
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/25/11 at 1:49pm
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You're on a Phenom I,Phenom II is greatly improved over Phenom I.
A old 7800GT,9400GT,or GTX2xx will not "bottleneck" A Phenom II.
It takes a GTX570 or 580 to bottleneck a CPU.


^That. If you've got a $100 CPU why would you buy a $400 graphics card?
No it isn't/doesn't.

Phenom I is Phenom II, expect Phenom II is 45nm and has improved clock rates (possibly because the NB being tied to the core clocks on Phenom I) and heat output.

Clock for Clock Phenom II is nearly identical to Phenom I.


Only on the AMD forum will the crusaders of misinformation change the definition of bottleneck.
    
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No it isn't/doesn't.

Phenom I is Phenom II, expect Phenom II is 45nm and has improved clock rates (possibly because the NB being tied to the core clocks on Phenom I) and heat output.

Clock for Clock Phenom II is nearly identical to Phenom I.


Only on the AMD forum will the crusaders of misinformation change the definition of bottleneck.
Lol,another intel fanboy pretty much saying a Phenom II will bottleneck a 9400GT.
Only on the AMD forum will the Intel trolls BS troll that a Phenom II bottlenecks everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_II
Clock for clock Phenom I isn't the same as Phenom II. Phenom II has improved chipset & cache size,better IMC,faster HT,stronger cores which results in improved OC's.
Even Intel biased Anandtech proves you wrong.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2702/9
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Acording to the definition you use for a bottleneck your CPU is bottlenecking you as well .

Let me remind you ,Phenom II X4 840 (Athlon II rebranded) is a 100 $ CPU that can deliver the performance you can see in that techpowerup link.

With a 3-rd of what you ve spend on your rig the OP can play any game , BOTTLENECKED as you say ,without knowing he is bottlenecked.
   
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Yes it can, imagine that.

The difference is when, and how much.

I will not stoop to a level where a 840 (rebranded athlon with L3 cache - which the athlon is a rebranded Phenom II without L3) is anywhere equal to an i5-2500k.
    
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Yes it can, imagine that.

The difference is when, and how much.

I will not stoop to a level where a 840 (rebranded athlon with L3 cache - which the athlon is a rebranded Phenom II without L3) is anywhere equal to an i5-2500k.
I don t give a d... if i m botlenecked at 100 FPS .
I don t care mate.
I don t want 1000 FPS-s because i can t see them ,even my digital monitor can t display them properly.
If the performance goes to under 30 FPS-s i upgrade ,simple as that.
Which is ok cost wise for my pocket.
   
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