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Err, wrong answer. Look here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ache,2416.html

Read the article and you'll see that there's overall a 10% increase IN GAMES if you have the 6MB L3 cache. In other applications, the difference can range from none to 5%. That, and the Phenom II scales much better in terms of performance once you pass 3GHz. Instances of L3 cache unlocking are less than 1% of all Athlon II X4s. The reason some unlocked is because they were rebranded Phenom II X4s, but now that's irrelevant. It was only batches in the first month of production of the Athlon II X4 in where they mixed Propus and Deneb dies. So, it's pretty much completely pointless to mention unlocking.
Good find! Glad I didn't go for a phenom II because of extra cache with my other builds
    
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Good find! Glad I didn't go for a phenom II because of extra cache with my other builds
You should be sad, actually, LOL. No L3 cache: automatic 10% loss in games. That, and having a quad-core instead of a dual-core will give you 10% more performance on top of that.
    
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Hmmm, wish my mom was like that.

Are you going Intel or AMD?


AMD is hell alot cheaper, and Intel being not cheap.

Personally i would go Intel.
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L3 cache does indeed usually make the most difference in games, though it is a pretty small difference; I would take a quad core with no L3 cache over a dual core with L3 cache, but it may depend on the game (and ability to unlock)
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L3 cache does indeed usually make the most difference in games, though it is a pretty small difference; I would take a quad core with no L3 cache over a dual core with L3 cache, but it may depend on the game (and ability to unlock)
Too bad there aren't any Phenom II x3's left. They really are perfect for budget gaming builds.
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They were pretty good during their time. None of them were C3 rev though.
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well before i went in I had an Athlon II X3 440 unlocked to quad and oc'd to 3.6 did me alright lol
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Woah! That's scary, my mom told me she was tired of seeing me make wishlists on newegg and when we move she'd give me $500 on a new computer too! And this happened today, on Easter as well! Thanks for making this thread, I'll be watching it lol
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why would you need a new one id give my left nut for yours
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They were pretty good during their time. None of them were C3 rev though.
Yeah the last one I recall was the PII X3 740 on sale for $70 on Newegg black friday sale before it sold out that weekend.

Decent chip gets hot for lower clocks compared to C3 chips, hits a oc ceiling as an X4 @3.6.

The Athlon II X4 630 on sale for 75 is a current good deal, also some of the combos with the 840/925. Don't let the Phenom II 840 name trick you, it is really an Athlon II X4 in disguise (no l3 cache).

All that being said, a better graphics card >>>>>>>> L3 cache.

A athlon ii x4 + 5850 (140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...apphire%205850)

will outperform in (almost) all games a Phenom II X4 + lesser videocard (5670,5770,gts450).
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