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But you said ZERO MOVING PARTS.

I get what you mean by the socket moving but the only issue I have is the CPU being held down by its pins alone. This can be a pain in heatsink/waterblock removal since you have to twist the HS/block to remove it without pulling the CPU out along with it.

I don't think I've heard about anyone breaking or bending pins under normal usage with this socket.
I have had several problems with the particular socket design. I had an AMD board that fritzed out and melted two of the pins into the sockets (and yes, proper cooling/TIM was in place), then when trying to pull the CPU out, when it slid backwards, the pins broke off into the socket when I moved the lever back.

It's a crap design really. Intel's socket/clamp design is pretty nice.



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Well AMD needs BD to be a top performer then if it wants to be treated as the golden child by motherboard manufacturers.

It also has a lot to do with the price of CPUs themselves. If a person is willing to spend $1000 on a chip from Intel they most likely wouldn't mind spending $400 on a motherboard. People tend to spend more on their CPU than their mobo.
You definitely have a point there. If AMD can push out a quad core that beats or performs as well as Intel's out there for relatively cheap (sub 400 bucks) I would be in love...
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LOL...that's very funny.AMD is in a prime position right now BECAUSE they purchased ATi,just ask nVidia and Intel,who are both scrambling to be able to compete against them in the mobile market.Ignorence is bliss I guess.Why does every single thread with AMD in the title turn into "Intel is better-AMD sucks?" NO ONE ASKED YOU OR NEEDED THIS REHASHED INFO!
Although I believe that buying ATI was a very smart choice for AMD, you cannot ignore the fact that AMD is making second rate processors, and the only way they are still here is because they keep slashing the prices of their processors.

I mean look at the the Phenom II 1100T, it is supposedly the best desktop CPU of AMD, and it is slower than the i5 2500k in practically every use and the Intel CPU even costs less.

If AMD cannot compete with Intel on a technological basis, it must soon exit the CPU race... because it can't keep just slashing prices of its second-rate CPUs hoping it can scrap some profit from the low-end section of the market - like it has been doing for the past 5 years.

This is relevant to the conversation because this lack of technological innovation at AMD has led them here. Hopefully, a better CEO can re-trigger that strive for better technology that once lead AMD to the top.
Edited by born2bwild - 4/25/11 at 12:20pm
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Hopefully they'll find someone who will bring them to the top.

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because everything steve jobs is accosted with is overpriced
Yes.
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AMD are liars.
Their name is Advanced Micro Devices yet they haven't had any micro devices for over 4 years. They should change their name to Advanced Nano Devices.
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I mean look at the the Phenom II 1100T, it is supposedly the best desktop CPU of AMD, and it is slower than the i5 2500k in practically every use and the Intel CPU even costs less.
You are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the 1100T may be AMD's flagship model at the moment, but only BD vs SB would be a fair comparison. I mean, how old is the PHII technology? 2.5 years? That's ancient. They have basically been only tweaking an old technology for the past couple of years.
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You are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the 1100T may be AMD's flagship model at the moment, but only BD vs SB would be a fair comparison. I mean, how old is the PHII technology? 2.5 years? That's ancient. They have basically been only tweaking an old technology for the past couple of years.
Well, there are two ways of comparing a company's offering to another's.

A. You either compare same generation products without consideration of the price.
B. You look at all options available (disregarding when they were made) while factoring in the price.

The first way will give you an insight to their technologies, while the second on their marketing. For example you either compare an i7 990x to an AMD Phenom II 1100T to see what same generation processors can do (while not factoring the price) or you consider all the options available disregarding their tech generation to get an insight into which company has the best deal for maximum performance out there since both products are still on the market (the i5 2500k vs Ph II 1100T).

The comparison that I did just highlights that AMD doesn't even have the price/performance crown in the mid-high end segments. I could have made the comparison of the i7 990x vs 1100T to show how AMD is behind Intel in terms of technology as the two processors are hexacores of the same generation.

This just proves my point, you can't just keep cutting down prices without any innovation, you can see how even though AMD tries hardly to at least get the price-performance market niche, it can't due to the largely superior architecture of the 2nd generation Intel CPUs. At one point if this trend continues - which I doubt it will because I think Bulldozer will be a good step up - AMD would be so behind Intel technologically that it would be forced to exit the race.
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You are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the 1100T may be AMD's flagship model at the moment, but only BD vs SB would be a fair comparison. I mean, how old is the PHII technology? 2.5 years? That's ancient. They have basically been only tweaking an old technology for the past couple of years.
It's not apples to oranges. They're both on the market right now, directly against one another, and the 1100t represents AMD's best offering to date. Like it or not, but it's a relevant comparison.
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actually steve jobs would bring massive publicity to AMD...
Apple is not a technology company, apple is a fashion company.

Big difference.
    
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Apple is not a technology company, apple is a fashion company.

Big difference.
Yes, you know, cos they didn't pave the way for USB and firewire, or the mouse, or smart phones, printers, scanners, displays, GUI, MP3 players, and on and on and on. Apple has been one of the most innovative companies in the technology world for the last 30 years.

I know, hard to believe with all the fud-spewing morons around the internet, but it's true.
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I have had several problems with the particular socket design. I had an AMD board that fritzed out and melted two of the pins into the sockets (and yes, proper cooling/TIM was in place), then when trying to pull the CPU out, when it slid backwards, the pins broke off into the socket when I moved the lever back.

It's a crap design really. Intel's socket/clamp design is pretty nice.
Sounds a lot like PIBCAK error.
How many mobo's have been rejected from RMA because of supposive "bent pins"?

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Yes, you know, cos they didn't pave the way for USB and firewire, or the mouse, or smart phones, printers, scanners, displays, GUI, MP3 players, and on and on and on. Apple has been one of the most innovative companies in the technology world for the last 30 years.

I know, hard to believe with all the fud-spewing morons around the internet, but it's true.
how Ironic.

that fact is whatever product apple is selling, i.e. smart phone, that technology has already been out Asia 5-10 years before apple decides to market and spins it as the best newest thing.

USB? That was designed by Intel.
Firewire? More of a overpriced nuisance than feature.

And i'd rather not go on.
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