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Originally Posted by Kirus2012 View Post
....Also comes with a keyboard, and a mouse, as well as a "media remote" ..whatever the hell that is..
Seriously? You're MS certified, deal with computers on a regular basis, know that HTPC's are kind of a common type thing (even if it's just a TiVo thing or some other type of media device), and you don't know what a 'media remote' is?


It's good to point out all the costs to mitigate the reasoning in purchasing a 1200$+ PC in today's age but let me help point out the truth for you:

* The license on that machine did not cost HP what we would pay retail or otherwise, or even OEM because they buy in bulk and pay for a license only, not the media.

* The pricing you come up with from a single place (Newegg) is hardly the best price you could find for the items included.

* The big difference in building PC's is that it's hardest to beat the cheaper packages offered by OEM brands like HP, Dell, and others, whereas it's much easier to build a better PC for the price you pay on the high end of the OEM spectrum.

Come on now....
    
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I just have to say $1600 now that is just dumb!
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my thoughts exactly.
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You missed the best part, he's a GPU and Gaming expert!
    
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post #135 of 207
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Seriously? You're MS certified, deal with computers on a regular basis, know that HTPC's are kind of a common type thing (even if it's just a TiVo thing or some other type of media device), and you don't know what a 'media remote' is?


It's good to point out all the costs to mitigate the reasoning in purchasing a 1200$+ PC in today's age but let me help point out the truth for you:

* The license on that machine did not cost HP what we would pay retail or otherwise, or even OEM because they buy in bulk and pay for a license only, not the media.

* The pricing you come up with from a single place (Newegg) is hardly the best price you could find for the items included.

* The big difference in building PC's is that it's hardest to beat the cheaper packages offered by OEM brands like HP, Dell, and others, whereas it's much easier to build a better PC for the price you pay on the high end of the OEM spectrum.

Come on now....

When I said "media remote... whatever the hell that is" I meant, its probably some cheap thing with a pause, play, rewind, and no fastforward button...

When I was talking about MS OS, people on here were talking about how that would cost them 6-700$ to build on there own. Well, that price does not include Operating System. Thats what I meant.

You argued my pricing, I said not to.


Like, are you being serious with me right now?
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post #136 of 207
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rofl a 6770!!?????????? if that thing EVER breaks tell him to QQ. its honestly a solid computer, but that rams probably oem, so if that were me, id tell his dad to buy better ram and a new graphics card and that computer would be BLISSFUL!

also, i bet the cooling on that thing is terrible
A 6770 isn't that bad a card. It's a 5770.
But for the price, its horrible.

RAM used is probably Micron (Infineon), pretty good stuff. And RAM doesn't die everyday.
Similarly, gaming RAM is not needed on a board that doesn't even have overclock functions.
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post #137 of 207
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When I said "media remote... whatever the hell that is" I meant, its probably some cheap thing with a pause, play, rewind, and no fastforward button...

When I was talking about MS OS, people on here were talking about how that would cost them 6-700$ to build on there own. Well, that price does not include Operating System. Thats what I meant.

You argued my pricing, I said not to.


Like, are you being serious with me right now?
Because you're trying to point out prices that aren't completely accurate....
    
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People just don't know/ignorant/ don't care and just want easy/simple.
This.

added "Don't" 'cause it didn't make sense before.
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Well... you got to look at it like this.

That computer is not as bad as you think, and also.. take this into consideration...



I have no idea were you guys get your Windows 7 Ulti 64bit cd-keys... I am microsoft certified, so I get them from Microsoft for cheap monies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH

If you say thats a 6-700 dollar computer, add on another 200 something dollars for an OS, because most "people" don't have the ability to "obtain" these keys such as some of us may.

So right there were atleast at 8-900 hundred dollars.

_____________________

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have a wireless card is my PC.. so tack on ATLEAST 30 dollars for a decent wireless card. I don't care if you can find a "cheaper & better" one I am just saying.

8-930$ now.

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Comes with a blu-ray disc. I don't know much about em, but the cheapest burner on newegg is 77 dollars.

now were at roughly 9-1000$


....Also comes with a keyboard, and a mouse, as well as a "media remote" ..whatever the hell that is..

So lets says 1050$...

_______________________

So I realize that HALF that **** isn't needed, but the point is, its there, and you need to take into account of it. Don't all jump on me, I understand that pre-builts are a joke, I am just saying, according to my quick, hack job price round up, in order to "TRY" and match this PC, it would cost you around 1050$.... So lets say best buy built there PC's, they would be making a 550$ profit off it. Which is reasonable.

Also, HP (to the general public...) is known as a "quality" computer company. So its like buying an Audi in the car world I guess. You guys make think other wise, but people I know think of HP to be the best, generally.

So for 550$ more, you can walk out with it, no building it, no installing the operating system, no running into problems, you know it will work (or you bring it back..)

So for the common man, maybe it is "worth it" to buy these computers, us, obviously not, we can build them to our own specifications, and put our money into performance, instead of wireless cards, and blu-ray burners...

Idk...

Take it or leave it, don't flame, and don't argue with my price range, because I hacked it out in legit 5 minutes.
Yeah... Except for the fact that pre-builds from big companies have low quality OEM hardware that breaks with nothing, not counting the crappy airflow (leading to shorter lifespan of the components) and basically all these problems that seem to be deliberately created just to make the consumer buy a new machine every few years because "oops, your old machine died!"

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You missed the best part, he's a GPU and Gaming expert!
It's not a problem then... The mistake was RAM-related, not GPU
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The thing about these first party OEM's is not only price, but the quality of their components. Who knows if they are putting all cheap no-name branded parts in their systems? It's a scary thought, unless you buy a prebuilt for less than $500. Then it won't really matter.
They're neither cheap nor no-brand.
They're just not worth the price.
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Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer-C AKASA Ball Bearing Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2311H 
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