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1090T --> 200
6770 --> 120
Motherboard --> 120
Case --> 70
2TB 5400RPM HDD --> 70
8GB Memory --> 100
Generic PSU --> 50
Blu-Ray Drive --> 70
Windows License --> 100
Wireless Card --> 20
Cyberlink Media Suite --> 60
Time value of money --> Depends how much you earn, but most people who consider a 1000 dollars computer are likely white collar workers earning at least 20 dollars an hour and the lost leisure time need to be factored in.

That's about $1000. That's Newegg prices more or less. For most people paying 200$ extra isn't that big a stretch considering they have one company to deal with for warranty, don't need to worry about compatibility issues. Don't need rebates etc.

Honestly its very hard to beat the large OEMs on price for a "normal" computer. What most consumers are able to do however is get better quality components for around the same if not a little more.
Edited by TickleMeElmo - 4/24/11 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by Flynny View Post
I get why people buy pre-built, it's simple and guaranteed to work. If it doesn't, you call the manufacturer and they have to fix it. No hassle, no mess, no fuss!

But, that of course comes at price. It's a tradeoff between saving money and building your own and risking something not working, or paying extra for a guaranteed machine. And yes, I realize there are plenty of free computer help services (Like this website which I am becoming more and more addicted to...), but answers are not always right and are not as instant as calling a manufacturer.

I cringed as I read the story about your friend's dad. I know too many people like that. Usually it's not too hard to convince them once I say I can build them the same computer for much cheaper. But the thing I really hate is how Best and other market their computer. They use numbers, numbers are easy. "2TB!" *I've never heard of a terabyte...* "Wow! And look at that! 8 gigabytes of RAM! RAM sounds powerful!"

One last point, didn't I see a thread here about how there are no drivers for the 6770?
^^This, manufacturers put will put 8gb ram or some other amount that the average consumer doesn't need, or a 2tb hard drive, to wow users that know nothing of this stuff. Then they put ridiculous prices on the machine and the user thinks it's "teh beast computah evar!!!!!11". Sure, that machine was decent, but insanely overpriced.

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Originally Posted by MooCwzRck View Post
Not everyone is like you or me though. I am just like you, I love my toys and if I get a new one I find everything out about them that I can, how to use them, how to do it myself. I almost never pay someone else to do something. Me and my dad have built and/or did almost all the repairs or upfitting of every building we have ever bought or every house or property we have ever owned. I built my PC. My first car was a '67 Mustang that I restored myself, and have never taken my car to the shop for anything unless I really just didnt have time to do something myself, or didn't currently have the tools to do it.

But in the end, there are things even I have bought that I probably could have done for cheaper, but didnt have the time to learn or didnt have the will or interest. I mean, you can't say you've never been to a restaurant and never had pre-made food that you probably could have made for much cheaper at home?

I sympathize with you completely, but at some point, everyone has different priorities. Some people have other things they want to do, rather than learn about their hardware, or work on their own cars. Some people would rather focus on playing an instrument, or maybe they have kids and have to focus on them, or maybe are in school and have a job at the same time, etc. At some point, there is something where you are paying a premium for someone else to do it.
^^And This, different people have different priorities, and that means that not everyone wants to take the time to learn this stuff. Some people don't care about computer specs. Just want a machine that can browse the web. Not everyone knows how to do everything, and it's not fair to ask them to learn it. I love cars, but I don't know the first thing about trying to fix or modify them, and frankly I don't care. Just doesn't interest me, and lots of people feel the same way about building PC's, or learning how they work. Some people pay the premium price so they can focus on other things, things more important to them. But yeah $1600 way overpriced for that DECENT machine!
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post
1090T --> 200
6770 --> 120
Motherboard --> 120
Case --> 70
2TB 5400RPM HDD --> 70
8GB Memory --> 100
Generic PSU --> 50
Blu-Ray Drive --> 70
Windows License --> 100
Wireless Card --> 20
Cyberlink Media Suite --> 60
Choose the cheapest mobo, RAM, and PSU you can find and try again.
Should be able to shave off another $100+, and will be comparative quality of the bottom-of-the-bin parts that go in nearly every OEM PC.
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there's also the factor for lower costing machines
I don't know about you, but its pretty hard to compete with a $350-400 dollar computer, even if its a low end processor

No matter how you price it, buying new components to slot yourself under $350 + Genuine Windows License is difficult.

Most people only need the 350-400 dollar computer. There's a reason why the mom/pop computer shops all seemed to been forced out.

Now we know that computer's overpriced, but for someone who has the $$ and does not want to deal with the time to build a computer, it may be nice for them.
They also only have to go to one manufacture to fix the computer, unlike if something happened to ours, we'll be dealing with multiple RMA's with different manufacturers.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tombug View Post
Well put. Overpriced with old components.
Are you kidding? The T1090 is not old... The 6770 is not fresh off the production line but isn't old, what are you talking about old components...
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Choose the cheapest mobo, RAM, and PSU you can find and try again.
Should be able to shave off another $100+, and will be comparative quality of the bottom-of-the-bin parts that go in nearly every OEM PC.
I don't know much about AMD motherboards but find a full size motherboard with wireless and with a PCIe slot and I wouldn't be surprised if it were aroun 110 or more, RAM can be had for 50 dollars I guess. With PSUs, OEM computers generally use fairly average PSUs, but definitely not the worst.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post
1090T --> 200
6770 --> 120
Motherboard --> 120
Case --> 70
2TB 5400RPM HDD --> 70
8GB Memory --> 100
Generic PSU --> 50
Blu-Ray Drive --> 70
Windows License --> 100
Wireless Card --> 20
Cyberlink Media Suite --> 60
Time value of money --> Depends how much you earn, but most people who consider a 1000 dollars computer are likely white collar workers earning at least 20 dollars an hour and the lost leisure time need to be factored in.

That's about $1000. That's Newegg prices more or less. For most people paying 200$ extra isn't that big a stretch considering they have one company to deal with for warranty, don't need to worry about compatibility issues. Don't need rebates etc.

Honestly its very hard to beat the large OEMs on price for a "normal" computer. What most consumers are able to do however is get better quality components for around the same if not a little more.
Its not all about performance. Its for upgrade-ability, quality parts, overclocking, looks, preferences. Also to top all that its fun so in the end you get a lot more from custom builds. Warranty can also be better. PSU - 7 Years, MB - 3 Years, GPU - 3 Years, HDD - 5 Years - RAM- Lifetime so you get much more warranty which you have to play $100 - 200 extra for 3 years and its will take at least 3 weeks to get the computer back.
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the computer isnt bad. it is a nice computer an will do him justice. personally tho i like building mine just because i can choose what i want an i can have the fun of putting it together, and its not really that hard.. i mean if it dont fit it doesnt go there an if it does fit then it most likely goes there. but for most people its easier just to go buy 1 all put together. i hope the kid got at least a 23" inch monitor
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I don't know much about AMD motherboards but find a full size motherboard with wireless and with a PCIe slot and I wouldn't be surprised if it were aroun 110 or more, RAM can be had for 50 dollars I guess. With PSUs, OEM computers generally use fairly average PSUs, but definitely not the worst.
MB for like $70. PSU for like 30-40 a CX430 and OEM uses crap low wattage PSUs
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My PC is a Prebuilt which i purchased from Digital Storm . Great price during the holidays. Though i totally redid the whole LC system on this PC all myself and i have never done anything with LC before. I built my first PC for my friend ordering from Newegg which was a huge success.

Yeah a lot of people don't care about building there own computers, they would rather buy it than deal with the hassle. The same goes for other things too.
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