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A friend of mine is actually regretting his purchase of a Dell at Best Buy over a year ago. It's a decent computer but he would like to upgrade his GPU, problem is he needs to upgrade his PSU first. It doesn't have the power connectors nor the power to run a new GPU. He paid over $1000 for this PC that uses a BTX motherboard (junk) with like a 375 watt (only one spare molex connector) power supply, and a 4200 series GPU (the thing is tiny)

I popped the case open and said, 'oh, ahh, you need to buy a power supply, you can't even run this GTS 250 card I have here.' I was gonna sell him the GTS 250 or my 4870 but he can't run them. Well he plays his PS3 most of the time now, lol.

For someone who doesn't plan to do any heavy gaming, pre builts are perfect but if you plan do future gaming then you are throwing money away.

Oh yeah the reason why he is regretting it is because I built his roommate a PC for $420 (he loved that number) that out performs his $1000+ PC plus it looks way nicer with the Cooler Master 912 case.
That's the other side of it, no upgrade options later on. If you do upgrade it, you have to replace so many parts the $$$ to upgrade becomes ridiculous. Buddy of mine has an HP that is well over 5 years old. He spent $150 for a DVD drive and 1 yes 1 GB of ram. Some people just won't learn.
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Ignorance and/or lazyness. It's that simple. Most people don't know what really matters in a gaming pc. I took my sig rig (I had a GTX 260 at the time) to a lan party at my school and it was full of people like: OH how many megabytes does your video card have? They didn't even know what gddr2 or gddr5 was. All they wanted was memory. So I laughed when somebody with a 9400GT 1GB DDR2 came to me and said: AHAHAHAHHA my video card has more memory than yours. At that time I didn't know what to do, so I opened Crysis Warhead and asked if his 9400GT could run it at 1080p. Yeah, I thought so.
Yeah memory one of the main features that is touted as the end-all be-all of performance...I get customers all day long that are like "All I know is I need 4GB of memory and a 500GB hard drive" as if the processor is only slightly relevant to the performance. People will be comparing our laptops to say one from Walmart with 6GB of memory for no reason and say that one is much better when it may have an athlon dual core over a core i5. Graphics cards are the same way, people will not understand that just because a graphics card has the same memory "amount" doesn't mean the performance is even slightly equal. Its just the way people spread bad information through word of mouth and ignorance, and the manufacturers and retailers all fuel it through how they advertise the amount of memory before they will the processor.

I remember when we had an HP laptop come to my Best Buy in the sales ad an HP laptop with I believe an athlon II dual core, and 8GB of memory. It was selling for like 600 dollars, and we sold out of it the first day it was out, it was insane. We would try and talk customers out of it, but they were confident they would be "future-proof" with 8gb.

The whole "more memory=more performance" myth is annoying as hell.
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post #193 of 207
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Because some people don't know how to build their own or don't want to. It's easy to know how and look down on people for doing so, but I ask you: Do you fix your own car, or do you take it to a shop? When you take photos, do you leave your camera on automatic or do you use manual settings?

You simply can't expect everyone to know everything.
I know this is an old thread but I have to answer that. Yes I do fix my own car, or when its broken I research how to fix it myself and what parts I need. I just recently changed my breaks and my car is working great.

There is no reason for anyone to be ignorant when they can google or youtube simple things like this.
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I'm sure we've already had plenty of posts on why people choose prebuilt. But I think the real issue here is how major PC manufacturers rip people off. They throw in useless crap like 8 gigs of ram and 2 terrabyte harddrives that do nothing for gaming really and use these as leverage to upsell the computer, but yet it still will come with a crappy 5400rpm harddrive and mediocre video card. They exploit peoples lack of knowledge and price gouge. That's the real issue. If they offered the right components and none of the fluff it really wouldn't be that big of a deal.
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post #195 of 207
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I know this is an old thread but I have to answer that. Yes I do fix my own car, or when its broken I research how to fix it myself and what parts I need. I just recently changed my breaks and my car is working great.

There is no reason for anyone to be ignorant when they can google or youtube simple things like this.
There is no reason to spend a large amount of time researching and learning something that will probably never interest you.

I don't know about everyone else who builds computers, but this stuff interests me, which is why I put time, effort, and money into it. Do you always do research on things before you do it? Are you willing to set aside X amount of time to learn something when you could just pay a little more and have it done for you?

I can buy my own oil filter and oil for my car, set aside about 30 minutes to do it, clean, take a shower... OR I could take it to a shop and have it done in 5-10 minutes. Sure, I saved money. Sure, did it myself. Sure, I'm less ignorant (though that's arguable). So what?
 
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There is no reason to spend a large amount of time researching and learning something that will probably never interest you.

I don't know about everyone else who builds computers, but this stuff interests me, which is why I put time, effort, and money into it. Do you always do research on things before you do it? Are you willing to set aside X amount of time to learn something when you could just pay a little more and have it done for you?

I can buy my own oil filter and oil for my car, set aside about 30 minutes to do it, clean, take a shower... OR I could take it to a shop and have it done in 5-10 minutes. Sure, I saved money. Sure, did it myself. Sure, I'm less ignorant (though that's arguable). So what?
Some people like to learn to Do it themselves, however I agree researching everything you could do yourself is basicly a waste of time, I mean most people who make there own items out of certain parts usually have an interest in it, like most of us people here on OCN.
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I'm sure we've already had plenty of posts on why people choose prebuilt. But I think the real issue here is how major PC manufacturers rip people off. They throw in useless crap like 8 gigs of ram and 2 terrabyte harddrives that do nothing for gaming really and use these as leverage to upsell the computer, but yet it still will come with a crappy 5400rpm harddrive and mediocre video card. They exploit peoples lack of knowledge and price gouge. That's the real issue. If they offered the right components and none of the fluff it really wouldn't be that big of a deal.
Isnt that what all manufacturer's do?
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I will get better framerates on my $650 self-built.
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Same reason most people don't build their own houses or cars; their interests and talents lay elsewhere.

I'm not a smith and do not own a forge, so I buy premade knives instead making my own.
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I know this is an old thread but I have to answer that. Yes I do fix my own car, or when its broken I research how to fix it myself and what parts I need. I just recently changed my breaks and my car is working great.

There is no reason for anyone to be ignorant when they can google or youtube simple things like this.
Couldnt agree more. Maybe before the internet was big i would say no, but today it is SO easy to find all the information you need to do anything.
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