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Hello everyone. So I am preaping to update my rig for summer and got few questions.

I am ordering the haf x to replace my 932. I will also order the XSPC rasa 750 360 kit with the RX rad since I've seen that it will fit on the top of the HAF X.
Few questions though. I am planning on cooling my 965 and 570GTX(maybe will upgrade to 580 later and add this in the loop instead).
But since bulldozer is coming this summer it would replace my 965. Would I be having any problems with the XSPC kit? or will the AM3 mounting will do?

Thanks in advance
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none whatsoever. The am3+ backplate is fully backwards compatible with the am3 and lower
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I was also wondering this answer, thanks kingofyo1
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Thanks, also will I be able to cool both gpu and cpu with the xspc kit? will I need to purchase additional tubes/block? Also, does the price difference between RS and RX rad justify the performance?(like what is the temp difference between the two?)
Edited by zefs - 4/24/11 at 5:45pm
    
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Yes, the price difference should be justified in the performance difference between the RS and RX, as you'll be able to push the RX harder with faster fans to get better performance. Unfortunately, I don't know any numbers comparisons between the two, but the RX definitely gets great reviews and good numbers in testing.

You should be fine with cooling the CPU and GPU (with some minor overclocking on the CPU). Check out this chart with the heatload as the title from Skinneelabs:
triples-v2_OC920-275sli_deltaT.jpg

If you want to add a GPU, you'll need an appropriate water block for your card (from any manufacturer) and barbs for it that match your tubing (you'll want to buy G 1/4" to 1/2" barbs, even though the kit comes with 7/16" tubing). You might want to go ahead and buy better tubing from the beginning. A lot of people have noticed a gross color (it's been compared to diarrhea) after a few months of use. Just buy some Primochill tubing off the bat (in 7/16" size) of your favorite color (or clear). It's only like $16 off amazon with free shipping (with prime) for the new tubing, and 10ft of it, which will definitely be enough for tubing up a HAF-X with a CPU, GPU, radiator, and reservoir.

Also, you may have some trouble with the RASA kit since it uses a front bay pump/reservoir. The HAF-X's bays have slight indentations/platforms to provide support to optical drives in the drive bay section, so you may have to dremel them off to get the reservoir in. Not difficult, just something to be aware of.

I love watercooling in my HAF-X smile.gif Best of luck with yours!
(also, keep your 932 door, especially if it is a full window version since they're swappable with the HAF-X's side; I may pick up a full window version since I don't need the extra ventilation that the HAF-X's door fan provides)
post #6 of 19
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Thanks for the reply.

Got few more questions
Since I now have a 570 and may upgrade to 580 which parts would be the best?

1) I found this backplate from EK: EK-FC5X0, will that do for all 5x0 cards? Also is it a good choice? Will these do for both 570 and 580 GTX: Backplate / Block (says G 1/4")

2) Is acetal + nickel better than nickel only?

3) On this video it seems that the reservoir fits perfectly on the haf x?

4) The xspc rasa kit does not come with liquid right? so I will need to buy better tubing + liquid?

5) Would the Corsair Obsidian 700D be a better choice for this project? I like it more than the haf x actually.
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1) Can't help ya there, I'm on AMD and know nothing of current Nvidia cards

2) Full nickel get marginally better temps, but it's really about the looks. There was one review where the reviewer said that full nickel got better temps unexpectedly, but they weren't a major difference, only minor. Any reason you didn't want to go with full-cover blocks? With just that core block, you'll still need to attach heatsinks to the VRMs and VRAM and run a fan over it...

3) You're right. I looked around for a while, and finally saw that someone had pictures of the Rasa's reservoir/pump installed, and it has indentations in the sides of it to fit those rails in, so no modding needed. I had been recommending it to people because I never noticed the side slits before because most sites only have the front-on image, but now I've seen a few more to see that it does have rails.

4) It looks like according to their site, they do not include liquid. This is a good thing, I swear. Yes, buy better tubing (Primochill Primoflex 7/16" in the color of your choice or Tygon), some distilled water from your local store (you'll only need 1/4 of a gallon or so, but get a gallon to be safe), and a silver kill-coil to prevent microbial and algal buildup.

5) 700D is a very sweet setup, and if you're willing to pay the price difference and like the case more, then there's no reason not to! Better is a relative term....

Hope that helps smile.gif
post #8 of 19
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Okay, I just thought that gpu block is still needed when going full cover tongue.gif

So, I just need help with choosing the full cover for the gpu right now.
Does anyone know if there is one out there that will do for both GTX 570 and 580?

Also, will I be having any problems with my PSU?
Edited by zefs - 4/25/11 at 7:38am
    
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With your current PSU (625w) you'll be skirting the top-end of it's usability. I base that on a 580 using around 400w by itself at full load (I looked it up in MaxPC's EVGA 580 SC review, factory overclocks). A 570 they reviewed used was about 340w at load. Usually a CPU and mobo doesn't draw 200w, but I don't know the figures for a PhenomII overvolted. I would see what others are saying in the overclocking area, or use the PSU calculator here to get the best estimate. I know when I "push" the settings on that calculator (adding second video card, overestimate CPU voltage and overclock), my computer is estimated to require ~730w or so, a hare under my PSU's max rating.
post #10 of 19
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Yeah seems like I will be needing a 750W soon.
    
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