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So I picked up an Apogee XT this weekend at Microcenter. They had two boxes that just said "Apogee XT" and 1 box that said "Apogee XT Rev 2." So of course I picked up the Rev 2 since it's supposed to flow much better. Now I went ahead and put together, filled, and bled the loop, but afterwards got to thinking I probably should have checked to make sure this is really a Revision 2 block, seeing as none of the 3 boxes were sealed at Microcenter (though when I opened them, they didn't look like they had been gone through).

I've looked at many pics on the web, and can't seem to tell a difference between the two on the outside. Obviously they are different on the inside.

My question: is there any way to tell without opening the block up to inspect the innards? I've already got the loop together (with 1/2" barbs and 7/16" tubing, so not easy to get the tubing off without some cutting), and really don't want to pull it apart if I don't have to.

I wouldn't care if the boxes were sealed, but with them all being easily opened, I'm a bit paranoid.

So anyway to tell without ripping it apart?

I'm just worried I spent $80 on a $50 block
Edited by c00lkatz - 4/24/11 at 11:50pm
     
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Best people to answer that would be swiftech, why not send them an e-mail and ask.
    
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Don't think there's gonna be a way to tell without ripping it apart. I ve got both revisions and they come unsealed in the swiftech box. I don't see why they need to jack the price up thirty dollars for the little bit of extra material removed. I wouldn't be paranoid, I doubt a retail store would switch them up on you.

A nice touch from swiftech would be a rev 2 badge or engraving on the top plate.

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Best people to answer that would be swiftech, why not send them an e-mail and ask.
I figured I would get a quicker response from OCN.

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Don't think there's gonna be a way to tell without ripping it apart. I ve got both revisions and they come unsealed in the swiftech box. I don't see why they need to jack the price up thirty dollars for the little bit of extra material removed. I wouldn't be paranoid, I doubt a retail store would switch them up on you.

A nice touch from swiftech would be a rev 2 badge or engraving on the top plate.

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Thanks for the info. I'm not so much worried about the retailer as much as I am the consumers. At least now I know it's normal for them to be unsealed (which I think is stupid).

I'm finishing up the cable management now. Flow seems to be pretty good with 3 blocks and 2 rads, so I'll just wait till the next time I tear the loop apart to check. According to Martin/Skinne's Flow Rate Estimator, even with the rev 1 I should be over 1GPM with my setup, so I guess there's really nothing to worry about. If I find out later that it's a rev 1, I'm sure a phone call to Swiftech will get it sorted out considering the box I have says it should be a rev 2 .
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if you bought it within a month or so then its a rev 2. its only 80 shipped or something.

even if you get the rev 1 you can just buy the base which isn't that much like 30 or so. but if you buy a block for 40 and the base its like getting the rev2 but then you void you warranty. i was thinking about it also.

the copper plating i dont know about getting it replaced highly unlikely. hopefully that helps
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Well I wound up having to tear the loop apart anyway to troubleshoot horrible temps on both my CPU and 2nd GPU. The CPU temps did not decrease at all, and my 2nd GPU was running 20*C hotter than my first GPU. Reseating did not help in either scenario. While I was trying to do some more extensive bleeding one of my tubes popped off the 120 rad and blew the second GPU up (luckily nothing else went with it).

Now I'm back down to 1 GTX470 and a $200 paperweight I went ahead and rebuilt the loop and was able to look at the innards of the XT...sure enough it's a rev 2. Got it all put back together with better TIM, a modified fan config, and more bleeding, and my temps dropped about 2*C on my GTX470 and a whopping 12*C on my CPU!

It seems the Apogee XT was well worth it over the Apogee GT!
     
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