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Bump to a 570 and get a 120GB or larger SSD in there.
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post #22 of 52
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Originally Posted by 2thAche View Post
Bump to a 570 and get a 120GB or larger SSD in there.
Read his most recent list and tell me how he should fit an SSD in there? He doesn't want to go much over 10000 kr

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Originally Posted by Valoel View Post
So this is how it looks now I can live with that price aswell and it should have room for some upgrades later on, if I am not mistaken.

GFX: Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom 2479,00 kr.
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Sandy Bridge LGA1155 Socket1422,00 kr.
Monitor: Samsung 24" SyncMaster P2450H 2ms 1080p1464,00 kr.
HDD: Samsung 1000 GB F3 32 MB 387,00 kr.
MB: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe B3 Sandy Bridge1473,00 kr.
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333MHz (2x2) 326,00 kr.
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 624,00 kr.
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Mouse: Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse 195,00 kr.
Keyboard:Logitech Keyboard K120 101,00 kr.
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Delivery: 104,00 kr.
Total: 10305,00kr.

Edited by juano - 4/25/11 at 6:45am
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post #23 of 52
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Bump to a 570 and get a 120GB or larger SSD in there.
not in budget.Build looks pretty balanced
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post #24 of 52
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Originally Posted by 2thAche View Post
Bump to a 570 and get a 120GB or larger SSD in there.
I think the SSD is going to knock OP way over budget.

I would actually suggest OP go with the AsRock Extreme 4 instead of the suggested Asus variants to save 400 Kr. You will still have all the functionality you want (x8/x8, usb3 panel, plenty of SATA6 if you care) while being a lot cheaper. OC potential is dependent primarily on the processor anyways. There is a subtext for 856 kr, I don't know if this is after a rebate of some sort or not.

With the money saved, you could go for an 8GB kit of memory instead of the 4gb 1600:

GFX: Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom 2479,00 kr.
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Sandy Bridge LGA1155 Socket 1422,00 kr.
Monitor: Samsung 24" SyncMaster P2450H 2ms 1080p 1464,00 kr.
HDD: Samsung 1000 GB F3 32 MB 387,00 kr.
MB:ASRock P67 Extreme 4 Sandy Bridge 1070,00 kr.
RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz (2x4) XMS3 649,00 kr. As pointed out this is 1.65v, not suitable for Sandy Bridge systems.
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 624,00 kr.
CPU FAN: Scythe Mugen 2 rev.B SCMG-2100 336,00 kr.
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Mouse: Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse 195,00 kr.
Keyboard:Logitech Keyboard K120 101,00 kr.
PAD: SteelSeries SteelPad QcK Mousepad 85,00 kr.

New Total - $10,121 kr.
New Total with $104 for delivery - $10,225 kr.


The one concern is that some motherboards on that website have the "B3" label in the title while others (like this AsRock) don't. Is there a way for you to check whether the board is b2 or b3 stepping?
Edited by Velathawen - 4/25/11 at 7:43am
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Good build, but try getting a better video card maybe a 570 or HD 5870/6950 instead of the GTX 560
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I believe most P67s will say somewhere one the box if it is B3 (usually in gigantic lettering) and the couple of boxes on that site that I looked at that did not says B3 in the title also did not say it on the box leading me to think they are actually B2 which would be a hassle best avoided in my opinion. Asrock is a decent brand that has great value for money but their warranties are often much shorter than more reputable brands. That RAM you recommended is also not ideal for sandybridge seeing as it requires 1.65v
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post #27 of 52
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I believe most P67s will say somewhere one the box if it is B3 (usually in gigantic lettering) and the couple of boxes on that site that I looked at that did not says B3 in the title also did not say it on the box leading me to think they are actually B2 which would be a hassle best avoided in my opinion. Asrock is a decent brand that has great value for money but their warranties are often much shorter than more reputable brands. That RAM you recommended is also not ideal for sandybridge seeing as it requires 1.65v
Nice catch on the ram voltage, for some reason I thought they were 1.5. As an alternative, there is the HyeprX 2x4GB CL9 1.5 kit for 692 kr, or the 8GB version of the Vengeance CL9 1.5 kit for 725 kr. The CL8 v CL9 difference will not be apparent outside of synthetic benchmarks. I think starting off with 2 4GB sticks is better than deciding to want more ram later and having the sunk costs of the initial 2x2GB kit. Selling them down the road is definitely an option, but it creates additional hassle which is avoidable.

Concerning the stepping, I know that the boxes themselves are labeled. I was referring to OP asking checking with SHG.DK to see whether the stock they have is B2/B3 stepping, seeing as SHG.DK has inconsistent labeling on their website. Although, the fact that they have two different prices for a P67 Sabertooth and P67 Sabertooth B3 indicates to me that the AsRock boards might not be B3 stepping. I don't think it hurts to check though. If it is indeed a B2 stepping, I will concede that it is definitely not worth the hassle, although they do seem to OC with slightly lower voltage than B3 counterparts.

Concerning the AsRock warranty, they have a program going until the end of June this year where you get +1 year to whatever your regional warranty offer is. So if you live in a region where they offer 2 year warranty normally, you are bumped up to 3 year warranty free. I suggest the AsRock (was going to suggest UD4, but that site doesn't carry) because I doubt the OP would make use of the extra features the additional $300 kr would bring with the EVO. The saved money could then go towards doubling the ram available, which would make a bigger impact on overall performance than say dual lan.

Just wanted to point out a few alternative approaches, not trying to dispute your build as I do think it is definitely solid.
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Nice catch on the ram voltage, for some reason I thought they were 1.5. As an alternative, there is the HyeprX 2x4GB CL9 1.5 kit for 692 kr, or the 8GB version of the Vengeance CL9 1.5 kit for 725 kr. The CL8 v CL9 difference will not be apparent outside of synthetic benchmarks. I think starting off with 2 4GB sticks is better than deciding to want more ram later and having the sunk costs of the initial 2x2GB kit. Selling them down the road is definitely an option, but it creates additional hassle which is avoidable.
I agree that CL8vs CL9 is a very small difference and not worth paying much extra for, 1600MHz vs 1333MHz on the other hand I think I would try and get 1600MHz if at all possible. If 8GB is a possibility then that would be a great idea as well and would certainly help slightly with extending the gaming life of the board farther down the line. Also the website we have to work with is really quite limited in terms of RAM selection, hardly any good choices that meet the 1.5v that aren't 1333MHz.

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Concerning the stepping, I know that the boxes themselves are labeled. I was referring to OP asking checking with SHG.DK to see whether the stock they have is B2/B3 stepping, seeing as SHG.DK has inconsistent labeling on their website. Although, the fact that they have two different prices for a P67 Sabertooth and P67 Sabertooth B3 indicates to me that the AsRock boards might not be B3 stepping. I don't think it hurts to check though. If it is indeed a B2 stepping, I will concede that it is definitely not worth the hassle, although they do seem to OC with slightly lower voltage than B3 counterparts.
I would guess that the OC differences you mention would be purely coincidental, I don't think the small change that they made to the SATA ports would effect the OC, more likely a BIOS update or any other change would account for any small differences. It is weird that this website appears to be selling B2 motherboards as if that's an okay thing to do, or atleast that's what it looks like. I would avoid ones that don't say B3 either way if possible.

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Concerning the AsRock warranty, they have a program going until the end of June this year where you get +1 year to whatever your regional warranty offer is. So if you live in a region where they offer 2 year warranty normally, you are bumped up to 3 year warranty free. I suggest the AsRock (was going to suggest UD4, but that site doesn't carry) because I doubt the OP would make use of the extra features the additional $300 kr would bring with the EVO. The saved money could then go towards doubling the ram available, which would make a bigger impact on overall performance than say dual lan.

Just wanted to point out a few alternative approaches, not trying to dispute your build as I do think it is definitely solid.
If the ASrock really is 300 kr cheaper than that may be the way to go, especially if the warranty extension you mentioned applies to him. I just don't really like Asrock because of the fact that they are the budget version of Asus but they include generally more features tacked on. Makes me wonder where the cost cutting is coming from, if you catch my drift.

I didn't get the impression that you were being argumentative or anything like that, we are both just here to help the OP, and you raised plenty of valid points.
Edited by juano - 4/26/11 at 5:55am
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post #29 of 52
Bah I'm sloppy, completely forgot to link them:

2x4GB Vengeance DDR3 1600 CL9 1.5v 725 kr

2x4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 CL9 1.5v 692 kr

I definitely had my reservations when I was first exposed to the AsRock branding. After trying their 870 Extreme 3 with a few friend's builds and now the Extreme 6 for my personal comp, I'm pretty content recommending AsRock boards to people who are willing to give them a shot.

Something interesting thing to note though is that Pegatron and Asus split up in June of 2010, and AsRock remained under Pegatron. I still wonder where they are cutting corners (if they are at all) to offer all of these goodies at a lower price point though. I don't have a source handy and the wikipedia article just states the same without an external source as well, so take it as you will
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Yet another edit Added the 8gb ram, but I think I will keep the "b3" board.

GFX: Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom 2479,00 kr.
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Sandy Bridge LGA1155 Socket1422,00 kr.
Monitor: Samsung 24" SyncMaster P2450H 2ms 1080p1464,00 kr.
HDD: Samsung 1000 GB F3 32 MB 387,00 kr.
MB: ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 Sandy Bridge 1324,00 kr.
RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Vengeance v1.5 786,00 kr.
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 624,00 kr.
CPU FAN: Scythe Mugen 2 rev.B SCMG-2100 336,00 kr.
CASE: Cooler Master Master Elite 430 358,00 kr.
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 754,00 kr.
DVD/RW: Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-S223C (Sort) (En gros) 197,00 kr.
Mouse: Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse 195,00 kr.
Keyboard:Logitech Keyboard K120 101,00 kr.
PAD: SteelSeries SteelPad QcK Mousepad 85,00 kr.

Delivery: 104,00 kr.
Total: 10616,00kr.

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