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Im about to pull the trigger on a Dell U2311H, for those of you that upgraded from a TN to an IPS monitor, was it worth the upgrade?

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I work with IPS panels at work. They're nice, I won't lie. What it really comes down to is: are the deeper colors (reds above all else) worth the extra money? The difference is significant, but I don't mind not having all the colors available to me at home, it doesn't affect my gaming experience, while it seems to make a huge difference to others. TN panels are just fine for me. It all comes down to how much importance you place on such a feature.
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I work with IPS panels at work. They're nice, I won't lie. What it really comes down to is: are the deeper colors (reds above all else) worth the extra money? The difference is significant, but I don't mind not having all the colors available to me at home, it doesn't affect my gaming experience, while it seems to make a huge difference to others. TN panels are just fine for me. It all comes down to how much importance you place on such a feature.
You spend hundreds of dollars on GPUs to make your game run well on max graphics. What use are those max graphics when you are viewing them through a messy TN panel?
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Yeah, I think I am going to save the cash and wait...

I'd like to see an IPS monitor VS my monitor with my eyes before I spend all my 200€ cash into the Dell IPS monitor....

Heard of many friends that told me it isn't worth the upgrade for gaming
The upgrade is 100% worth it IMO. The colors are incredible by comparison and people that say an IPS isn't good for gaming don't usually know what they are talking about.

The human eye has a refresh rate of roughly 33ms. A TN may have a GTG of 2 MS and a good IPS will be around 6-8ms. You cannot actually see the difference. What you MUST take into account is input lag which they NEVER advertise. The fastest TN is 6.9ms for input lag and the Dell you are looking at is 10.6ms. These are compared to a REALLY fast CRT.

You should read this

There is a comparo between the best TN panel out for ghosting and the IPS you are looking at. Compare ALL info between the Dell and the Samsung TN panel they used for ghosting.
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I read something about needing a display-port adapter for the u2711 - is that true? my 580 only has DVI and HDMI...
You can use displayport, as that's one of it's inputs. You can also use HDMI, VGA, DVI, Component, there are so many

I use a Mini-Displayport (on the back of my 5970) to DP adapter to use the Displayport, not sure if it makes any difference, but eh, nice lookin' cable.

You'll love it. Best purchase I ever made for my PC, by far.

Yes, Kevin, it's worth it, just do it already!

    
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The upgrade is 100% worth it IMO. The colors are incredible by comparison and people that say an IPS isn't good for gaming don't usually know what they are tlaking about.

The human eye has a refresh rate of roughly 33ms. A TN may have a GTG of 2 MS and a good IPS will be around 6-8ms. You cannot actually see the difference. What you MUST take into account is input lag which they NEVER advertise.

You should read this

There is a comparo between the best TN panel out for ghosting and the IPS you are looking at. Compare ALL info between the Dell and the Samsung TN panel they used for ghosting.
You must be extremely gullible in order to believe that the human eye has a refresh rate. And then you describe it in milliseconds.


The human eye does NOT have a fixed nor fluctuating refresh rate. The human eye detects changes, not complete frames. Through testing, researches have found that average humans are capable of seeing flashes of light up to 1/220th of a second. We can see game FPS to somewhere around 160, is my best guess. Anyone who says they can't see the ghosting of an LCD panel is either blind or lying. Although it may not bother you, every LCD will always have some degree of ghosting. If you want to see what it looks like to have 0 ghosting, go look at a high quality CRT.

We most definitely don't see only up to 30FPS as you said (33ms update rate). Anyone who isn't completely blind can see the difference between 60FPS and 120FPS on a 120hz monitor. And the difference is noticiable even further than that. My monitor does 160hz (CCC limit) and each step higher is noticiable, but I can't imagine it being any smoother. I limit to 100hz anyway, cause I don't want to go lower than 1600x1200 to achieve more hz.

Now to my point here. The advertised response time numbers are kind of marketing lies. You can't trust them. Granted, IPS panels will have more ghosting in general, but in a lot of cases, they will have less. The numbers advertised will NEVER be an accurate description of the amount of ghosting.

Go IPS, never look back.
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My 2711 was delievered an hour ago but I'm still at work! I'll post some pics and my impressions once I hook it up!
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The upgrade is 100% worth it IMO. The colors are incredible by comparison and people that say an IPS isn't good for gaming don't usually know what they are talking about.

The human eye has a refresh rate of roughly 33ms. A TN may have a GTG of 2 MS and a good IPS will be around 6-8ms. You cannot actually see the difference. What you MUST take into account is input lag which they NEVER advertise. The fastest TN is 6.9ms for input lag and the Dell you are looking at is 10.6ms. These are compared to a REALLY fast CRT.

You should read this

There is a comparo between the best TN panel out for ghosting and the IPS you are looking at. Compare ALL info between the Dell and the Samsung TN panel they used for ghosting.
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You can use displayport, as that's one of it's inputs. You can also use HDMI, VGA, DVI, Component, there are so many

I use a Mini-Displayport (on the back of my 5970) to DP adapter to use the Displayport, not sure if it makes any difference, but eh, nice lookin' cable.

You'll love it. Best purchase I ever made for my PC, by far.

Yes, Kevin, it's worth it, just do it already!

Im decided already!

Looks like someone really wants my Acer

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I was looking at the U2311h for only $229 on dell.com refurbished site. Correct me if im wrong but does dell refurbished have same warranty as new units? if so. and the u2311h comes with a lifetime warranty, with free 3 year replacement, isnt it better to get the refurbished unit for $70 off?
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You see the difference between a 60Hz and 120 Hz due to the level of blur between the frames. I used the roughly 30FPS as that is when motion on a screen generally become fluid to an accepable level(varies from person to person obviously)(probably closer to 24 FPS and then we can get into the triple frame to reduce the black flicker :-p). You are correct in that the FPS of an eye is not fixed and I should have worded the statement differently.
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