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Oh you don't like rehashes? And yet you bought hl2 Ep 1 and 2 releasing episodes for the same game over and over again...

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I fail to see how ep1 and ep2 are rehashes. You clearly haven't played them. They are extensions of the HL2 storyline. As for story... HL2 has a great storyline, of course you have to actually be paying attention to understand it, because it's not spelled out for you. MW2 doesn't hold a candle to it.
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Oh wow. I think their inspiration they got from Portal 2 due to the great 2 player mode has shifted them completely away from 1 player mode. This is a bunch of BS. FU Valve.
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I fail to see how ep1 and ep2 are rehashes. You clearly haven't played them. They are extensions of the HL2 storyline. As for story... HL2 has a great storyline, of course you have to actually be paying attention to understand it, because it's not spelled out for you. MW2 doesn't hold a candle to it.
Then you clearly havent played mw2 because it's an extension of mw1 storyline ...

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I've always liked multiplayer better but...Valve why??? You're Singleplayer games are by far the best in the industry.
No they're not. Fallout 3 and NV are both way better.
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Oh you don't like rehashes? And yet you bought hl2 Ep 1 and 2 releasing episodes for the same game over and over again...

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I fail to see how ep1 and ep2 are rehashes. You clearly haven't played them. They are extensions of the HL2 storyline. As for story... HL2 has a great storyline, of course you have to actually be paying attention to understand it, because it's not spelled out for you. MW2 doesn't hold a candle to it.
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Then you clearly havent played mw2 because it's an extension of mw1 storyline ...

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MW and HL2 are completely different games with HL being the better. MW2 was an addon to the Storyline, though it was beaten by me in 4 hours on a console at a friends house (And i truely suck at console FPS gaming) and i beat MW1 in about 6 or so hours. HL2 took about 8-10 depending on how you played, Ep 1 took me about 5-6 hours and Ep 2 took me about 6 hours. HL had a better, more immersive story and plus it was longer. And i got all three games plus Portal and team fortress 2 for 30 bucks, as opposed to MW2 still being 60 after what? Almost 2 years?
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If this **** happens I'm gonna find Gabe then gut,skin,and sell him for heating oil.

Like a whale.
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Then you clearly havent played mw2 because it's an extension of mw1 storyline ...

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I never said otherwise. I never said MW2 was bad either, it's just not as good as HL2.
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HL3/HL2EP3 better have singleplayer, cause i don't see how you can add a second player to stand by Gordon Freeman, unless its Alyx Vance........
Simple it can be one of those fighters that you came across in EP1-2 that helped you til they died. Only it be a second player or a 3rd/4th player. If modders who made Obsidian conflict and Synergy Hl2 co-op mods was able to do it while increasing the skill level of the game when a player pops in and not breaking the game. Then it can work for EP3 or whatever just with native co-op option. It can be limited to two players thru the game or 4 using Two Res Fighters or existing HL2 models of those thats alive, or Dog and Barney.
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Simple it can be one of those fighters that you came across in EP1-2 that helped you til they died. Only it be a second player or a 3rd/4th player. If modders who made Obsidian conflict and Synergy Hl2 co-op mods was able to do it while increasing the skill level of the game when a player pops in and not breaking the game. Then it can work for EP3 or whatever just with native co-op option. It can be limited to two players thru the game or 4 using Two Res Fighters or existing HL2 models of those thats alive, or Dog and Barney.
So I still can't see how the coop characters would be interesting to play. You either play as a nameless character who is going to die at some point in the story line, or you play as an important character, and remove any impact that character is realistically going to have on the story.

I think everyone wants to play as Gordon. The game isn't about anyone else.

Because some dude playing Alyx Vance is going to talk like and sound like that dude in game. What happens if the game needs to portray Alyx as vulnerable?

Suddenly his voice becomes scripted, wounded Alyx?

Don't allow a coop character to be important, or reduce the amount of storytelling potential through the characters. I have no idea what they are going to do, but I sure hope it isn't replacing single player elements with coop elements.
    
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Oh you don't like rehashes? And yet you bought hl2 Ep 1 and 2 releasing episodes for the same game over and over again...

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