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Originally Posted by doritos93 View Post
This is right. People need to stop trying to rewrite history with the whole AMD/Intel thing. AMD has always been a budget brand, while Intel has always been about performance. AMD has had some great processors in the past, but not enough to change their role in the industry. They've always been budget. One socket A chip 10 years ago doesn't change things lol.

Maybe they're trying to get the real enthusiasts with this one. Not a crazy thought.
*** are you smoking. AMD has always usually been the price/performance setup. Not necessarily budget.

It was not long ago that AMD ruled the roost either.. although 2 years in PC is a LONG time. So if you are a tweenager, you probably have no clue.

Yes Intel has always had something going on, well.. not in 939 days... AMD rode that arch into the ground though... AM2 and AM3 are both K8 archs. And AM2 was just a DDR2 example (when DDR2 sucked) of 939.

they were not any smarter with ddr3... except in waiting for it to be cost effective. I avoided DDR2 because it was slower in latencies and cost twice or more as much. With an IMC that is very important.

AM3 setups actually are good. (unlike AM2 IMHO) And offer everything intel does except straight 16 bit performance. (where it gets creamed) and does less so at 32 bit. 64 bit performance is very close though. Which makes sense since Intel leases it from AMD.

Could AMD make a huge jump in specs on this arch. Absolutely. Look at A64. so massive it took chipzilla a couple of years to come up with something equivalent and it was way overpriced when it did come out. MAD = budget. No not always.. XP was better than P4 for gaming.. A64 was better than p4 for everything.

Yes it has been a while.. but not always...

EDIT: I use both comapnies. Just 4 out of 6 of my machines are AMD. 4 of those AMD machines are built to one of an intel. Because prices are not just about chips, but chipsets. And AMD rules the motherboard market as well. (really $600 intel boards coming out on x58 NOW.. what are people smoking???)

Granted if it came with a free 20L dewar and one free fill up.. $600 might be an appetizing price... But it doesn't and you would need a good probe anyway since intel generally does not handle the cold well.
Edited by Neur0mancer - 4/25/11 at 5:27pm
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Most of the Intel replies comes from fanboys who wants to justify their Sandy Bridge purchase, so that they can feel good about themselves not waiting for BD.
They have been thread crapping for weeks.

I just hope that Amd prices there fx cpu's respectably.
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But who cares about real world things when all we talk about on OCN is benchmarks?

/sarcasm

Stefi: If I wanted Bulldozer I could just sell my 2600k, that was the plan all along, I can't live with only two 8x 8x PCI lanes.
Roflmao!
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Most of the Intel replies comes from fanboys who wants to justify their Sandy Bridge purchase, so that they can feel good about themselves not waiting for BD.
QFT.
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If that is anywhere near true...I will scrap my 2600K and grab a Bulldozer. If not...I will be disappoint.
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They have been thread crapping for weeks.

I just hope that Amd prices there fx cpu's respectably.
Indeed they have.

I'm assuming AMD learned from Athlon FX,hopefully they won't have $800 CPU's again.
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AMD isn't releasing a 1.8GHz Bulldozer server cpu.

It makes no sense. And even if they were it would have turbo cored to higher frequencies.

I'm not a fanboy, anyone who doesn't like what I have to say is.


This is fake, get over it.

Cinebench doesn't fail to recognize 24 cores.
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AMD isn't releasing a 1.8GHz Bulldozer server cpu.

It makes no sense. And even if they were it would have turbo cored to higher frequencies.

I'm not a fanboy, anyone who doesn't like what I have to say is.


This is fake, get over it.

Cinebench doesn't fail to recognize 24 cores.
Amd engineering samples are always set at lower values.
Even there twker phenom is clocked at 2ghz.
1.8ghz sounds way more believable than lets say a 4ghz bulldozer.
Then you would say its fake cause its too high.
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There is no point in arguing. The main thing people should focus on is that an 8 core bulldozer at 1.8ghz gets roughly a score of 5 (5-5.6). If you crank up the frequency to 3.5ghz then it could possibly get a score of 10-11.

Focus on the MATH.
It will match Intel's Sandy Bridge-E(6-core).

The 2600k @ stock clocks score a 6.9 in Cinebench. 6.9/4 = 1.725 x 2 + 6.9 = 10.35 for the a 6-core Sandy Bridge @ 3.4Ghz.

So the 8-core Bulldozer could very well be slightly faster than a 6-core SB @ 3.4Ghz *If* BD ships with 3.6Ghz clock speeds based on the numbers. Intel could just bump up the clock speed to make it more even.

Of course nothing is concrete... But it seems as if the CPU war won't be as lopsided as it has been in the past five years.

Good news for AMD, but Intel will counter with IB which will see an improvement in fab process and cache and will likely bring 8-cores as Intel has alluded to. AMD will have to get their 10-core BD out next year if they intend to compete with IB.

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Result = 23 for 8 cores x 4
23 / 4 = 5.75

1.8Ghz x 8 cores, still more powerful than an i7 960 which is 3.2Ghz x 4 cores/8 threads which scores 5.48 (theoretically speaking of course). Now when we bring it up to comparable speeds closer to the i7 960, we all know who's winning the battle (comparing thread-for-thread of course). I'm pretty sure it will get speeds much higher than Nehalem since it is a 32nm architecture
Nehalem is 45nm. Westmere is 32nm.
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This is identical to a fake that someone else put together.

Even if it couldn't read the name of the chip correctly, it would not automatically name it as one of the desktop Bulldozer chips, which runs at 3.5ghz.

At the very least the frequency would have been read correctly, it wouldn't have pulled 3.5ghz from thin air.
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Which is it?

A 8 core bulldozer cpu clocked at 3.5GHz (Per the screen) or is it 4 8 core bulldozer cores clocked at 1.2GHz?

It seems you're all grasping at ways to make this believable.
    
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