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Didn't JF-AMD say that BD is just up to 8 cores,with no fancy SMT module cores?
CMT may not show up until Bulldozer Enhanced.
ofcourse all BD are based on CMT.
Mike Butler (HotChips conference) said, AMD is building his future on this architecture.



OT, Llano
    
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ofcourse all BD are based on CMT.
Mike Butler (HotChips conference) said, AMD is building his future on this architecture.



OT, Llano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YfRh1FBkI4&
I sure hope all BD has it.
Llano did very well there,and that is only a ES chip.
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So that Llano was 1.8Ghz the whole time!?
I remember that video but the clock speed was hidden, it seemed Llano was showing a fair fight... WOW

I wonder if anything is CPU-based. If so, that is 4 cores/threads at half the speed on Phenom II tweaked 32nm architecture, destroying 4 cores/8 threads at twice the speed on Intel's newest architecture
And this is official and from AMD, wow

EDIT: I noticed that one of the apps is HyperPi; I zoomed in on the video and AMD appears to be one million digits ahead of Intel already
Oh man, this is big news... AMD's Llano, tweaked & 32nm Phenom II (Athlon II), with nearly half clock speed & half the thread count, is beating one of the top-end processors of Intel's Sandy Bridge. I just had to post it on the hardware news section. I am so sorry for stealing the fame, but this is big.... THIS IS BIG
Edited by xd_1771 - 4/26/11 at 12:39am
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I like how I'm a bias troll because I asked where he got his numbers.

Also pietro sk I never said Bulldozer would have poor FP performance. In fact its probably going to be better than SB.

What I said was, Floating Point is nearly worthless to me and just about everyone here.

xd what you failed to note was that AMD started theirs before the Intel setup.




Looks to me like Intel 23 seconds to start - AMD 29 seconds - First test done by Intel took 1 minute 26 seconds - first test by AMD took 2 minutes.


This doesn't showcase the SPEED of the cpu, its purely GPU/APU driven and AMD is comparing their APU vs Intels slowest (non k version / half as powerful). The Intel chip is getting clobbered by its horrible GPU and nobody here is ever going to argue for a Intel based GPU.
    
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Uh oh, you posted that BD has higher numbers.
I assume you didnt see that that calculation has BD with 300 mhz more clock speed, and 300mhz makes a big difference in Cinebench. So clock to clock, it would be worse.

I do hope this is fake though, it would be nice for intel to have some competition in the high end range.
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As an Intel user i am hoping that AMD will finally bring something to the table because Intel hasn't given us another Conroe moment yet. They had no reason to and the improvements on their products haven't been significant. Many AMD users look at that llano test and are proud. What they don't remember is that Intel did a similar test with a mid range conroe against a super high end AMD cpu that was three times the price.

When a 300 dollar Bulldozer will have twice the performance, in everything, of the 990X then we can safely say that AMD "Conroed" intel.
 
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Also pietro sk I never said Bulldozer would have poor FP performance. In fact its probably going to be better than SB.

What I said was, Floating Point is nearly worthless to me and just about everyone here.
maybe not, but you often discussed about : " ..BD shares FP units....this is not good....etc..."


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I sure hope all BD has it.
Llano did very well there,and that is only a ES chip.
that´s only demonstration how SB can have negative user experience effect, if external gpu is not present in system.
think about average Joe, he wants gaming laptop and cheap as possible.
With Llano no problem, but SB alone - not so easy..


Somebody asked here, why the buzz is about APUs. That video explains why.
Why SB is not APU ? It has inside GPU, right ? Or ?

SB graphics cannot do math computations like nvidias or radeons- openCL, DirectCompute..
intel graphics can do only graphics.
(no wonder, that intel gpu Boinc or f@h client doesn´t exist)

Even the SB video transcoding feature is handled by separate part of chip that does not belongs to GPU...
    
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As an Intel user i am hoping that AMD will finally bring something to the table because Intel hasn't given us another Conroe moment yet. They had no reason to and the improvements on their products haven't been significant. Many AMD users look at that llano test and are proud. What they don't remember is that Intel did a similar test with a mid range conroe against a super high end AMD cpu that was three times the price.

When a 300 dollar Bulldozer will have twice the performance, in everything, of the 990X then we can safely say that AMD "Conroed" intel.
You are hoping so you can get a cheaper Intel CPU.
It aint gonna happen ,unless you stop buying Intel (you and the other Intelists).
You are a captive Intel user prone to spend more just because it s Intel and Intel knows it.
   
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I'm pretty sure the average joe isn't running super pi, watching a blu-ray movie, and doing some sort of gpu intensive task all at the same time on a laptop/OEM desktop.

But thats just me.

No I often discuss the performance of BULLDOZER isn't enhanced by its style of CMT. Per core performance is lower because of it than it would have been without it.

Intels graphics are crap, I'm running SLI 470s under water... I'm not in the market for a intergraded gpu. And if I was I'd hit up Nvidia since I enjoy their drivers ever so much plus they provide the added bonus of allowing laptop overclocking, which I'm doing right now yeah.

Despite all that the SB (non k) chip is still faster in PI, because of Intel compiler though.
    
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EDIT: Turns out the benchmark is fake.
'Course.

From now on, I will only believe a bench, posted by reputable OCN member, who owns a Bulldozer and has tested it on his own rig.
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