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Tons of cores = awesome Cinebench score

Who would've thought?
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22/4=not looking good....
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Don't forget the x2 for the 1.8 to ~3.6 doubling per core.
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Just stop now.You maybe had a decent idea at the start but you quickly turned into trollville.It has taken 3 years not a few months.There is no statement of clocks used so you really can't say what is possible and what isn't.
Well first of all, we now all know that this isn't an 8-core Bulldozer, but 4 of them, so my point of the 300% performance increase over the last generation being very improbable is true. Also, I was not trolling merely stating my opinion.

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To suggest they would "throttle" back performance to maximize profit is just absurd.
Secondly, it would make perfect sense to limit the performance of chips based on condition. If AMD - or Intel for that matter - made a huge breakthrough, it would make much better sense releasing it every now and then to get people buying the processors.

Hypothetical example, if an equivalent of Phenom II 1100T came out in 2006, people wouldn't have bought any new CPU at least until 2009. Why? Because there was a massive breakthrough and no better CPUs are available. So everyone buys one of these, and no one buys a processor for 3 years. See? It is bad for business. So what literally every company does is release something slightly better than their competitor - if they can - and then release something better in a few months.

Ever wondered why recent tech developments are so clockwork-like? It is because of this. So what AMD would do in that hypothetical situation, is release a watered down version of that processor every year... each better than its last... and get people to buy 3x as much processors as they would. That is a business plan.

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Whatever it is they have,if it compares favourably to Intel then you can bet it will take days for Intel to copy it.
Thirdly, although developing a product is much harder than mimicking it... with patents and copyrights, it is impossible for a company to copy the other one in a "few days."
I mean if it was so easy, then why is AMD one generation behind Intel? If it was as easy as you say, why didn't AMD mimic the i7 920 to achieve better performance per core? I mean they had time... nearly 3 years by now. And the i7 920 still has better performance per core than any AMD commercial desktop CPU...
Edited by born2bwild - 4/25/11 at 3:38pm
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This is a very interesting thread. Not for any actual information, but for the reactions it generated.

The Intel fanboys let out the biggest collected cry of "fake" that I have yet seen on these forums.

The AMD fanboys, like myself, went with the "what if?" defense, and continued daydreaming about how bad Bulldozer will smash Sandy.

I heard one of the Intel guys jump up with the Ivy Bridge defense that they like to play, while conveniently ignoring the fact that the Bulldozer E is the true competition for that chip, and if Bulldozer destroys Sandy, E will much likely do the same with Ivy.

And then, to top it all off, I got to see a Mod troll (I didn't even know they existed.) get owned and shut down in 2 posts.

All in all, I give this thread 2 thumbs up.
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Hmm, not bad at 1.8 GHz. How does Phenom II X6 rank in the same benchmark?

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I heard one of the Intel guys jump up with the Ivy Bridge defense that they like to play, while conveniently ignoring the fact that the Bulldozer E is the true competition for that chip, and if Bulldozer destroys Sandy, E will much likely do the same with Ivy.
I know there's a Sandy Bridge E but it's the first time I've heard of Bulldozer E....
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So this is a quad bulldozer? Holy smokes.
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I mean if it was so easy, then why is AMD one generation behind Intel? If it was as easy as you say, why didn't AMD mimic the i7 920 to achieve better performance per core? I mean they had time... nearly 3 years by now. And the i7 920 still has better performance per core than any AMD commercial desktop CPU...
Because AMD struggled with the factories.You can t make extraordinary products with high cost manufacturing.
Nvidia had the same problems with the Fermi ,they couldn t release the chips due to inability to make them.
You should know that in 2006 a management decision made them postpone fabrication retek due to the will of making more Opterons or something ,a decision made by the CEO at that times ( i ve red this somewhere dont remember where).
AMD comes after a huge fall.
AMD had problems due to CRAP management thing that changed , judging by the way they do GPU bussiness.

LE:Let s not forget that the real CPU bussiness is not in the consumer market.Opterons manage just fine in that area.
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Hmm, not bad at 1.8 GHz. How does Phenom II X6 rank in the same benchmark?


I know there's a Sandy Bridge E but it's the first time I've heard of Bulldozer E....
It was on an AMD roadmap that's been put in quite a few threads around here, and it's supposed to release at the end of the year. I guess its about as factual as anything else pertaining to Bulldozer at this moment.
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There is no point in arguing. The main thing people should focus on is that an 8 core bulldozer at 1.8ghz gets roughly a score of 5 (5-5.6). If you crank up the frequency to 3.5ghz then it could possibly get a score of 10-11.

Focus on the MATH.
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