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Hello there, fellow overclockers. I come to you today with something less common. I call it "TMP", which stands for "The Mad Prop" cool.gif Some pics attached smile.gif
I got it from my grandfather's stash of old stuff. Not really sure what this prop was attached to originally. All I know is that 12V ain't enough (tested that already) and a sticker on the side says 220/240V 50Hz, so one of the first mods I'd need to do would be to extend the wires and add an outlet plug at the end.
Since my rig is running caseless, I don't want to attach the fan to anything - just hide/isolate all the metal parts(~electronic tape+cardboard on all sides?) and maintain its ability to stand upright without any support, while retaining enough mobility so that I could use it as a desk fan when summer comes. That thing can cause a friggin' tornado biggrin.gif It's loud as well, but meh. Another issue is the vibration caused by the tremendous number of RPM. Well, it wouldn't be placed next to any HDDs, but I'm guessing the vibration doesn't exactly help the rest of the components either, huh.

So, anyway, I'd like to hear any tips, opinions, suggestions - anything. I want it to look cool, run safe and retain the awesome tornado-ness smile.gif And no, I don't want to buy any "normal" aftermarket coolers, at least for the time being - I just want to make this one run.
Edited by Hyoketsu - 4/25/11 at 2:27pm
     
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220v? Great Oden's Raven!
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220v? Great Oden's Raven!

Yeah, I guess it came from some sort of an old household appliance. That makes it even more of a mad prop smile.gif It would have to draw its own power from the outlet smile.gif
     
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For the love of all that is sacred please do not plug that thing in. It will arc/start a fire/electrocute you/lower resale value on your home/induce Armageddon.
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But-but--- frown.gif

Well yeah, I do realize that atm it's not at a state where I can safely operate it, that's why I'm asking for some advice. There are bound to be some people here who make a living off electrics-related stuff like this. I sure hope I can make something out of it - this thing has awesome cooling potential.
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Quote:
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But-but---

Well yeah, I do realize that atm it's not at a state where I can safely operate it, that's why I'm asking for some advice. There are bound to be some people here who make a living off electrics-related stuff like this. I sure hope I can make something out of it - this thing has awesome cooling potential.
Well, perhaps some enthusiast can put me in my place here, but I'm an aerospace engineer and I've done a lot of work on propeller-driven craft. It's a great deal easier to get airflow from a larger diameter blade and a different pitch/cross section than simply spinning an existing smaller system extremely fast.

You'd move more air buying a $10 fan from wal-mart and directing it towards your caseless setup. A box fan will push 2000 cfm. You won't get 150 out of that tiny thing.
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Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
You'd move more air buying a $10 fan from wal-mart and directing it towards your caseless setup. A box fan will push 2000 cfm. You won't get 150 out of that tiny thing.
Hmm, you think so? I don't really have much to compare it to, nor do I have the qualifications, but when I plug it in, the airflow seems pretty good, at least to me. Even when my face is ~ 2 metres away from the blades, the breeze is still there, and it's not that weak either. In any case, this prop seems to be miles ahead of any of my PC fans. I could, of course, try looking for different blades, but making use of this motor is essential. I really wish I knew the exact RPM this thing operates at... The number should be up there, along with things, such as the speed of light, the diameter of the universe and the result of division by zero.
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T = Ct * rho * n^2 * D^4

n = angular velocity, D = diameter of blade

To get more thrust (which is directly proportional to volumetric flow), there are two orders of magnitude difference between rotation speed and diameter of the blade assembly.

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Hyoketsu lives in Vilnius, Lithuania. 50Hz 220 VAC is normal there. It's a normal AC fan. If it had a motor case and a shroud it could be a room fan.

Hyoketsu, I'm sure you can think of something fun to do with it.
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Hyoketsu lives in Vilnius, Lithuania. 50Hz 220 VAC is normal there. It's a normal AC fan. If it had a motor case and a shroud it could be a room fan.

Hyoketsu, I'm sure you can think of something fun to do with it.
Thanks Indeed, "something fun" is my aim here.
I think I might use the cover from a 25-DVD cakebox to make into a shroud. However, the fan's diameter is 11cm, while the cover's is 12.5cm, so I guess I should trim it a bit, huh?
I'm not really sure what to use as the motor case, though. I was thinking of going cardboard at one point, but that's a bit too shabby. A material that moderately reduces vibration would be best, since that's another slight issue that needs addressing.
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