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Hi guys.

My current WC rig is half custom, reservoir, radiator and pump are out of the case and I really want save me some space installing all inside the case. I want change my current radiator MCP-420 QP for a 360 radiator that fit inside the case and buy a real reservoir with compression fittings for install it inside the case too. So, here is the list that I'm thinking to get.

My case is a HAF X and the components are in my sig. It's for only cool the CPU.

1- Radiator:

a- Swiftech MCR320-QP
b- XSPC RX360
c- Do you recommend one? I want something that doesn't need high RPM fans for best performance (like GTX360 AFAIK)

2- Reservoir: 250ml or 150ml

a- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 - POM/Acetal
b- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 150 - POM/Acetal
c- Do you recommend another one? Not too expensive and if the recommendation needs something more, add the link too please.

3- Fittings:

a- 6xBitspower Matte Black 1/2in ID - 3/4in OD Rotary 45 Degree Compression Fitting
b- Would I need a different one? My pump is a D5 with speed control with normal fittings like this: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpu.html

4- Tube:

I need help here, I really don't now which is the best one for my needs. I'm open to suggestions in this part.

If you also can suggest the best way to install the components inside the case I'll say thank you too.

I prefer sindewindercomputers for price and International shipping.

Thanks for your help guys, if I forgot something or you need more details let me know.
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Originally Posted by saint19;13269363 
Hi guys.

My current WC rig is half custom, reservoir, radiator and pump are out of the case and I really want save me some space installing all inside the case. I want change my current radiator MCP-420 QP for a 360 radiator that fit inside the case and buy a real reservoir with compression fittings for install it inside the case too. So, here is the list that I'm thinking to get.

My case is a HAF X and the components are in my sig. It's for only cool the CPU.

1- Radiator:

a- Swiftech MCR320-QP
b- XSPC RX360
c- Do you recommend one? I want something that doesn't need high RPM fans for best performance (like GTX360 AFAIK)

2- Reservoir: 250ml or 150ml

a- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 - POM/Acetal
b- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 150 - POM/Acetal
c- Do you recommend another one? Not too expensive and if the recommendation needs something more, add the link too please.

3- Fittings:

a- 6xBitspower Matte Black 1/2in ID - 3/4in OD Rotary 45 Degree Compression Fitting
b- Would I need a different one? My pump is a D5 with speed control with normal fittings like this: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpu.html

4- Tube:

I need help here, I really don't now which is the best one for my needs. I'm open to suggestions in this part.

If you also can suggest the best way to install the components inside the case I'll say thank you too.

I prefer sindewindercomputers for price and International shipping.

Thanks for your help guys, if I forgot something or you need more details let me know.

I'd get the res for the MCP655 / D5 from XSPC. I'd also recommend the XSPC RX360. I personally use PrimoChill tubing because of the colors and difficulty kinking it at tight bends, but you can use whatever tubing you like (color, diameter, etc.). I like your choice of fittings as I have those and they work great.
Edited by TheSchlaf - 4/25/11 at 2:47pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saint19;13269363 
1- Radiator:

a- Swiftech MCR320-QP
b- XSPC RX360
c- Do you recommend one? I want something that doesn't need high RPM fans for best performance (like GTX360 AFAIK)

Swiftech will give the best bang for buck, RX will perform slightly better but the difference will be small.
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Originally Posted by saint19;13269363 
2- Reservoir: 250ml or 150ml

a- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 - POM/Acetal
b- Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 150 - POM/Acetal
c- Do you recommend another one? Not too expensive and if the recommendation needs something more, add the link too please.

Res size makes no practical difference to performance. You can look at the bay res or standalone pump / res combo for the D5 if you want, or for a cheaper option the Swiftech Micro res is good. Personal preference really, the bay res will not improve the performance of the D5 like the ones for the DDC.
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Originally Posted by saint19;13269363 
3- Fittings:

a- 6xBitspower Matte Black 1/2in ID - 3/4in OD Rotary 45 Degree Compression Fitting
b- Would I need a different one? My pump is a D5 with speed control with normal fittings like this: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpu.html

Do you need all 45° fittings? The ones you have picked are good, if a little expensive, but be sure that you need them! The straight versions are cheaper, just get the non-rotary straight fittings.

If you are sticking with the stock top for the D5 then yes, you need to use 1/2" ID tubing. If you go for a res top or another type of pump top then you can use fittings of your choice.
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Originally Posted by saint19;13269363 
4- Tube:

I need help here, I really don't now which is the best one for my needs. I'm open to suggestions in this part..

Tubing is tubing really. Tygon tubing is expensive but good, and seems to be all that Sidewinder sells. There are cheaper and just as good options out there, like Primochill for example, if you are willing to buy from other places like Jab-Tech.

I would recommend the thicker wall stuff (1/2" x 3/4" or 3/8" x 5/8") as it is less likely to kink. As I said before though, unless you are going to use a pump top or res / pump combo then you need to use 1/2" ID tubing to match the pump barbs.
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Great work
RX probably is better
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GingerJohn;13270699 
Swiftech will give the best bang for buck, RX will perform slightly better but the difference will be small.

I was thinking the same, the performance difference isn't enough for the price difference right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GingerJohn;13270699 
Res size makes no practical difference to performance. You can look at the bay res or standalone pump / res combo for the D5 if you want, or for a cheaper option the Swiftech Micro res is good. Personal preference really, the bay res will not improve the performance of the D5 like the ones for the DDC.

I already have the D5 pump. I think that 150ml for only CPU is more that enough don't you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GingerJohn;13270699 
Swiftech will give the best bang for buck, RX will perform slightly better but the difference will be small.

I was thinking the same, the performance difference isn't enough for the price difference right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GingerJohn;13270699 
Do you need all 45° fittings? The ones you have picked are good, if a little expensive, but be sure that you need them! The straight versions are cheaper, just get the non-rotary straight fittings.

If you are sticking with the stock top for the D5 then yes, you need to use 1/2" ID tubing. If you go for a res top or another type of pump top then you can use fittings of your choice.

Now that you say, I think that only need four and not six. I already have two non-rotary compression fittings like this. I think that as my radiator will go in the top of the case, the 45º fittings are a good option.
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Tubing is tubing really. Tygon tubing is expensive but good, and seems to be all that Sidewinder sells. There are cheaper and just as good options out there, like Primochill for example, if you are willing to buy from other places like Jab-Tech.

I would recommend the thicker wall stuff (1/2" x 3/4" or 3/8" x 5/8") as it is less likely to kink. As I said before though, unless you are going to use a pump top or res / pump combo then you need to use 1/2" ID tubing to match the pump barbs.

The Tygon tubing must be the one that says "laboratory" tube right? How much of it do you think that I need?
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I was thinking the same, the performance difference isn't enough for the price difference right?

Probably not, depends on how you value performance. Here are the results from Skinnee's triple rad comparison:

triples-v2_OC920_deltaT.jpg

As you can see, the water - air delta differs by as much as 0.5°C between the two for a 277W load.

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Originally Posted by saint19;13277057 
I already have the D5 pump. I think that 150ml for only CPU is more that enough don't you?

I know, that is why I linked the reservoirs that you can mount the D5 in. 150mm is fine, res size isn't important really.

Quote:
Originally Posted by saint19;13277057 
I think that as my radiator will go in the top of the case, the 45º fittings are a good option.

It really does depend on your layout. I would size everything up and plan how things will go, then decide what kind of fittings you need.

Quote:
Originally Posted by saint19;13277057 
The Tygon tubing must be the one that says "laboratory" tube right? How much of it do you think that I need?

For a CPU loop I would get 6-8'. Remember that tubing is fairly cheap, extra can be used when you expand your loop and it is better to have too much than to run out mid build and have to wait for more.
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