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Colour change issues within a water cooling system.
Advisory
We at Mayhems has been doing some extra investigations due to our new support system. We have found issues with flux used by some radiator manufacturers that has not been fully removed pre sale of the rads. This flux can stay with in a system for a very long period of time and can be directly related to issues reference colour change of lighter colours such as Yellow, Orange and Red.
Mayhems suggest the following.
At bare minimum ALL Rads should be flushed with flowing hot tap water (40c to 60c) to help remove and loosen off the water soluble flux from the manufacturing process. For a minimum of 30 minutes.
You can Improve and speed up this process by using Part 2 of the Mayhems Blitz Kit with hot water to aid and speed up this cleaning. Flush with hot water afterwards is still required.
To avoid any favouritism this should be applied to ALL Radiator manufacturers or OEM Radiators.
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Oky its hard searching for info on our stuff on this site some times, so here is a nice little "Club" were you can keep it all in one place.
Mayhems ethics fall in this order -
Products supported on this post are as follows. This will be updated as new products are released.
Please do not ask me to discuss were to purchase the products from as this is against the forum rules. Other users can say but "Mayhems" is not allowed too. If you have any Support questions you would like to ask keep them in this one thread then other users can find the information more easily.
Product Details and extra Info
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Q: Will Aurora block my system?
A: No it should not block you system as it contains particles smaller than 40nm. It can get caught up in crevices in rads and some reservoirs. It will fall out of suspension in dead water areas of systems. This is why a good flow in you system is a must with this liquid.
Q: Will Aurora stain my system?
A: Aurora should not stain your system as we do not use a UV Dye in it. How ever prolonged use of the Coolant may see some slight staining.
Q: I have a bay reservoir will aurora work in it?
A: Short answer is no. Long answer is that "Some" bay reservoirs have dead spots in there and this is like having a whirl pool inside you reservoir and the pearl will gather at the bottom of this. For the short term this is fine how ever over long periods of time you will see the pearl drop out of suspension.
Q: How do i flush the system after i have used aurora?
A: We plumb the PC in the mains tap and turn it on very slowly and leave it running for 15min to 30min this normally does the job fine. Then we rinse with DI water when we have finished.
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Q: Does Mayhems Pastel contain biocides and inhibitors?
A: Yes it does you need not add any thing extra into you system as every thing you need is included in the liquids.
Q: Can i make Mayhems Pastel UV Active?
A: Yes you can make Mayhems Pastel UV active how ever it takes a lot of dye to do this and we are testing new variants of dye to make them more UV Active. This how ever takes time and lots of testing.
Q: What is the longest time i can use pastel for?
A: The longest we have used Mayhems Pastel is 3 years with no problems found. We have not tested it past this, how ever at this time frame do expect dyeing of blocks and tubes. All so if you work it out Pastel is £14.99 a bottle this works out at less than £5.00 per year making it one of the cheapest premixed coolants on the market for this time period.
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Q: Does mayhems X1 contain Inhibitors and biocides?
A: Yes it does it contains every thing you need to protect your system again any sort of growth or mixed metal you may come across.
Q: If Mayhems X1 doesn't contain Glycol what does it contain?
A: Mayhems X1 contains vegetable extract which is PH neutral that acts as a carrier for the biocides and inhibitors. Because it is a vegetable extract this all so makes it biologically safer to use than glycols.
Q: Is there any other difference from Mayhems X1 than to a Glycol?
A: We have found in our testing that because we use vegetable extract as our base mix there is a increase in temp from glycols. This temp increase is approx 0.5c to 1c. How ever some users have noted as being the same temperature. Every ones results are different though.
Q: Will Mayhems X1 stain my system?
A: UV Red, UV Pink, UV Blood red will stain your system. UV Blue, UV Oil Black, UV Green and UV Yellow Green Will stain your system if left in it longer than 9 months. UV Clear Blue and Clear will never stain your system
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Q: I have heard from a mystery man or women that dyes can cause a blockage in a water cooling block. Is this true?
A: No it is not true at all. There are several root causes to the issue of blocking and that falls down to either plasticizer, inhibitors or algae the latter being the rarer of the causes. With tubing a lot of them contain plasticizer and these leach out of the plastic and into the water. This then gathers around the Pins of the block and over time builds up into a sticky residue. What happens at the same time is the dye in the water cooling fluids then "dyes" the residue making people think the route cause is the dye which it is not. The same happens with Inhibitors and algae but in a different manner.
Q: Do dyes stain water cooling systems?
A: Yes they do. Dye is made to stain that's why it has been used for thousands of years to stain clothing and many other products. Any dye introduced into a system will cause staining over a time period and some faster than others. UV Pink is the worst at doing this and is used to make Red UV active as Red is not normally UV active. The only product out there that will never stain is UV Clear Blue as this is actually not a dye. The less dye you use in the system the less staining you will get.
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These are questions sometimes we are asked in forums or in privet.
Q: Have you ever had problems with plated products?
A: We personally have never experienced any problems what so ever with any plated products with any of our liquids including our biocide.
This post is not official by OCN mods but by Mayhems.
How to Videos
How to make Pastel Gray
How to make Blood Red Clear
How to make Blood Red Pastel
How Use Mayhems Blitz (part one video)
(To be updated when i get more time)
Colour change issues within a water cooling system.
Advisory
We at Mayhems has been doing some extra investigations due to our new support system. We have found issues with flux used by some radiator manufacturers that has not been fully removed pre sale of the rads. This flux can stay with in a system for a very long period of time and can be directly related to issues reference colour change of lighter colours such as Yellow, Orange and Red.
Mayhems suggest the following.
At bare minimum ALL Rads should be flushed with flowing hot tap water (40c to 60c) to help remove and loosen off the water soluble flux from the manufacturing process. For a minimum of 30 minutes.
You can Improve and speed up this process by using Part 2 of the Mayhems Blitz Kit with hot water to aid and speed up this cleaning. Flush with hot water afterwards is still required.
To avoid any favouritism this should be applied to ALL Radiator manufacturers or OEM Radiators.
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Oky its hard searching for info on our stuff on this site some times, so here is a nice little "Club" were you can keep it all in one place.
Mayhems ethics fall in this order -
- Support for the Consumer and Reseller alike. No one is treated any differently. Every one is equal no matter if you spend £0 or £10,000 with us.
- Distribution - we do not sell in every shop going and we refuse to sell in a lot of shops. We will not flood the market as we feel this destroys the market place and the products.
- Products - We strive for quality and if there is a problem we will sort it out as fast as we possibly can. No company is perfect, but by working closely with our consumers and resellers we aim to come pretty dammed close
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Products supported on this post are as follows. This will be updated as new products are released.
- Mayhems Blitz Pro and Basic Kits
- Mayhems Aurora
- Mayhems Pastel
- Mayhems X1
- Mayhems XT-1 (New Product)
- Mayhems Dyes
- Mayhems Ultra Pure H20
- Mayhems Biocide Extreme
- Mayhems Rads (360mm Quad pass, 240mm Quad pass)
Please do not ask me to discuss were to purchase the products from as this is against the forum rules. Other users can say but "Mayhems" is not allowed too. If you have any Support questions you would like to ask keep them in this one thread then other users can find the information more easily.
Product Details and extra Info
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Quote:Mayhems Blitz Pro and Basic Cleaning Kits
Pictured below is the "Mayhems Blitz Pro Kit"
Mayhems Blitz Pro Cleaning System is the most comprehensive cleaning kit ever released for liquid cooling computers. It has been developed to clean your radiator's better than new and leave your system in perfect condition. The Blitz Pro kit even comes with a electronic pH test meter so you can check your levels and keep up with regular maintenance on your system
How Use Mayhems Blitz (part one video)
Common Q&A for Aurora
Q: Will Aurora block my system?
A: No it should not block you system as it contains particles smaller than 40nm. It can get caught up in crevices in rads and some reservoirs. It will fall out of suspension in dead water areas of systems. This is why a good flow in you system is a must with this liquid.
Q: Will Aurora stain my system?
A: Aurora should not stain your system as we do not use a UV Dye in it. How ever prolonged use of the Coolant may see some slight staining.
Q: I have a bay reservoir will aurora work in it?
A: Short answer is no. Long answer is that "Some" bay reservoirs have dead spots in there and this is like having a whirl pool inside you reservoir and the pearl will gather at the bottom of this. For the short term this is fine how ever over long periods of time you will see the pearl drop out of suspension.
Q: How do i flush the system after i have used aurora?
A: We plumb the PC in the mains tap and turn it on very slowly and leave it running for 15min to 30min this normally does the job fine. Then we rinse with DI water when we have finished.
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Common Q&A for PastelMayhems Pastel Coolant
Mayhems Pastel is a mixed bag of tricks and has a extremely long life span. This product was developed in conjunction with "Ice Dragon Cooling" to produce pastel type colours for the PC user. Mayhems Pastel Coolants can be used up to 3 years in a system.
UPDATE : PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Working, Tygon E1000 Working. "DEHP" free tubing is recommended for use with Mayhems pastel coolants.![thumb.gif]( "thumb.gif")
Mayhems Pastel is a every day type liquid unlike Mayhems Aurora and can be used in all systems and has never had any reported problems as such.
Colours Mayhems Pastel comes in as standard in 250ml concentrate and 1 ltr premixed.
- White (this is the base mix you can change to any colour)
- Red
- Blue
- Pink
- Green
- Yellow
- Orange
- Purple
- UV White (this is only available in 1 Ltr premix and cannot be made in 250ml concentrate)
Q: Does Mayhems Pastel contain biocides and inhibitors?
A: Yes it does you need not add any thing extra into you system as every thing you need is included in the liquids.
Q: Can i make Mayhems Pastel UV Active?
A: Yes you can make Mayhems Pastel UV active how ever it takes a lot of dye to do this and we are testing new variants of dye to make them more UV Active. This how ever takes time and lots of testing.
Q: What is the longest time i can use pastel for?
A: The longest we have used Mayhems Pastel is 3 years with no problems found. We have not tested it past this, how ever at this time frame do expect dyeing of blocks and tubes. All so if you work it out Pastel is £14.99 a bottle this works out at less than £5.00 per year making it one of the cheapest premixed coolants on the market for this time period.
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Common Q&A for X1
Q: Does mayhems X1 contain Inhibitors and biocides?
A: Yes it does it contains every thing you need to protect your system again any sort of growth or mixed metal you may come across.
Q: If Mayhems X1 doesn't contain Glycol what does it contain?
A: Mayhems X1 contains vegetable extract which is PH neutral that acts as a carrier for the biocides and inhibitors. Because it is a vegetable extract this all so makes it biologically safer to use than glycols.
Q: Is there any other difference from Mayhems X1 than to a Glycol?
A: We have found in our testing that because we use vegetable extract as our base mix there is a increase in temp from glycols. This temp increase is approx 0.5c to 1c. How ever some users have noted as being the same temperature. Every ones results are different though.
Q: Will Mayhems X1 stain my system?
A: UV Red, UV Pink, UV Blood red will stain your system. UV Blue, UV Oil Black, UV Green and UV Yellow Green Will stain your system if left in it longer than 9 months. UV Clear Blue and Clear will never stain your system
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Common Q&A for Dyes
Q: I have heard from a mystery man or women that dyes can cause a blockage in a water cooling block. Is this true?
A: No it is not true at all. There are several root causes to the issue of blocking and that falls down to either plasticizer, inhibitors or algae the latter being the rarer of the causes. With tubing a lot of them contain plasticizer and these leach out of the plastic and into the water. This then gathers around the Pins of the block and over time builds up into a sticky residue. What happens at the same time is the dye in the water cooling fluids then "dyes" the residue making people think the route cause is the dye which it is not. The same happens with Inhibitors and algae but in a different manner.
Q: Do dyes stain water cooling systems?
A: Yes they do. Dye is made to stain that's why it has been used for thousands of years to stain clothing and many other products. Any dye introduced into a system will cause staining over a time period and some faster than others. UV Pink is the worst at doing this and is used to make Red UV active as Red is not normally UV active. The only product out there that will never stain is UV Clear Blue as this is actually not a dye. The less dye you use in the system the less staining you will get.
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Quote:Mayhems Ultra Pure H20
Warning even though our liquids are human safe and animal safe we NEVER recommend you consume them....
Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 was created for the EU market how ever it has exploded out of the region. The reason why we made Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 was the water supplied in the UK is not very well controlled and after testing as many versions of DI water (deionized) we could get our hands on we found them to range from good to extremely poor. Even the same brand over the same batch were inconstant. So we decided to make our very own purification units and make our own water. Please remember Distilled water is not radially available in the EU region due to the cost of making it.
Our water is not made in a big plant on the other side of the ocean and then shipped to us, It is all hand made in Mayhems Labs (yes we actually now have a lab you just wont ever get to see it lol). On average we bin 6 ltrs of water to make 1 ltr of Mayhems Ultra Pure H20.
We have had Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 tested independently of us a Glaxosmithkline chemical labs in Barnard Castle for its purity and it was graded at Type III how ever we do not use this grading as we know that the longer the water is in the bottle the more plastic is leached into the water even though we use Food Grade bottles.. This how ever is kept to a minimum due to it being made freshly all the time and not having to be shipped from another country to us and then shipped every were else.
There is a old saying "you pay for what you get". We do not use fancy packaging or rubbish to sell you our products and we do not hype them up. You the users do that for us.![wink.gif]( "wink.gif")
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Off topic questions ?
These are questions sometimes we are asked in forums or in privet.
Q: Have you ever had problems with plated products?
A: We personally have never experienced any problems what so ever with any plated products with any of our liquids including our biocide.
This post is not official by OCN mods but by Mayhems.
How to Videos
How to make Pastel Gray
How to make Blood Red Clear
How to make Blood Red Pastel
How Use Mayhems Blitz (part one video)
(To be updated when i get more time)
