They already have contacted us, it's called Dubstep.

 

Neat

 

No offense but some people are 100% sure area 51 has alien craft/alien bodys there, and if thats true they had the technology to get here, which the fact that they could travel here would mean their Technology, is somewhere like 1000x ahead of ours, im not sure if theres realy aliens or not just saying

 

Encryption is not free. Why would we expect every signal to be encrypted when many are not worth the cost because the contents are not secret?

 

unfortunately unlike here, we can't beat aliens over the head or threaten them with jail time so they'd give up their keys.

so their encryption is unbeatable.

what i did there, did you see it

 

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From a scientific perspective, this does make sense in a way, as encrypted waves could be truly indistinguishable from just noise.

Correct, the best way to protect encryption is to obscure it. How can you know it needs deciphered if you don't even know you're looking at it? Its not necessarily a genius idea, just getting the most airplay because its him saying it. He's really no one special, just a whistle-blower who blew a REALLY loud whistle.

Good food for thought though

 

This all assumes an advanced civilization even has to transmit anything. Odds are they will have figured out a means of instantly "transmitting" data, but nothing actually being broadcast in any sense of the word. Basically they bend Quantum Entanglement (or something space-y sci-fi) to their will, and aren't even making any detectable noise.

 

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No offense but some people are 100% sure area 51 has alien craft/alien bodys there, and if thats true they had the technology to get here, which the fact that they could travel here would mean their Technology, is somewhere like 1000x ahead of ours, im not sure if theres realy aliens or not just saying

I remember middle school. Good times

On topic though,

This actually makes some sense. Can't tell waves apart.

 

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I remember middle school. Good times

On topic though,

This actually makes some sense. Can't tell waves apart.

well it makes sense and does NOT at same time, what if their Technology is like 1000x ahead of ours? then what we may see as a problem, their technology may be able to tell the waves apart, so who knows?

 

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unfortunately unlike here, we can't beat aliens over the head or threaten them with jail time so they'd give up their keys.

so their encryption is unbeatable.

what i did there, did you see it

 

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cosmic microwave background radiation

How do we know for sure that the quote above isnt actually alien transmissions that we cannot decipher and we just think its background radiation because thats the limit of our primitive understanding?

 

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Originally Posted by ubbernewb

No offense but some people are 100% sure area 51 has alien craft/alien bodys there, and if thats true they had the technology to get here, which the fact that they could travel here would mean their Technology, is somewhere like 1000x ahead of ours, im not sure if theres realy aliens or not just saying

While I pretty firmly believe that there is alien life out there, I am not so sure about the area 51 aliens. If you aren't 100 percent sure that area 51 has alien bodies and craft, I am not sure how you could make the claim that somebody else is 100 percent sure that area 51 has alien bodies and craft...

Rylant

 

Could be one of countless potential reasons we haven't been able to detect extraterrestrial intelligences, but I still think the scale of the universe, both in space and time; relative to how long we've been looking, where we've been able to look, and what we've been looking for, are probably larger obstacles than potential encryption.

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The age of it makes it pretty unlikely. CMB dates from the formation of the first atoms, and well before any heavier elements.

 

This proves Snowden really didn't have any common sense or any real intelligent thought.

If aliens are able to travel interstellar space, I seriously doubt any encryption we could come up with would generate any sentiment other than "oh, look at the little monkey beings thinking they're talking in private".

 

Maybe aliens are observing us. But why would they contact us? Think of it like this: if there are aliens who have evolved to a level of intelligence that enables them to travel to galaxies light-years away, what do you *think* they would think of humans?

The first thing we used rocket engines for were to fire explosive warheads. When we had barely discovered how to control a nuclear reaction, we made a bomb to kill tens of thousands of people.

 

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How do we know for sure that the quote above isnt actually alien transmissions that we cannot decipher and we just think its background radiation because thats the limit of our primitive understanding?

Or how about a more logical scenario?

The distance from us to other alien civilizations is so far, that by the time any radio waves reach us, it would have faded below cosmic background noise levels? Local communications don't need to jack up the power to cover light-years of distance, let alone thousands to millions of light-years. They only need to cover light-minutes and light-hours. Remember, if the signal wave isn't in a perfectly straight line (i.e. a laser), it will lose power equivalent to the square of the distance.

Let's not overthink things. Literally the only reason this guy is saying this is to say "Hey, I'm still here and I'm still relevant."
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Maybe aliens are observing us. But why would they contact us? Think of it like this: if there are aliens who have evolved to a level of intelligence that enables them to travel to galaxies light-years away, what do you *think* they would think of humans?

The first thing we used rocket engines for were to fire explosive warheads. When we had barely discovered how to control a nuclear reaction, we made a bomb to kill tens of thousands of people.

What makes you think a much more advanced civilization would be any more or less barbaric and warlike than ours? Or at the very least have a similar history?

 

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This proves Snowden really didn't have any common sense or any real intelligent thought.

If aliens are able to travel interstellar space, I seriously doubt any encryption we could come up with would generate any sentiment other than "oh, look at the little monkey beings thinking they're talking in private".

What makes me sad is that you didn't even understood what Snowden said, and how obvious was that he exclusively talked about their encryption and not ours.

I still don't agree with him thought.

 

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What makes you think a much more advanced civilization would be any more or less barbaric and warlike than ours? Or at the very least have a similar history?

My personal religious and metaphysical beliefs first of all. Of course there is the possibility of warmongering aliens, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that's we in the future. But there's still the possibility that this is a lesser universe as a whole.

In other words, I think there might be a connection between intelligence and "spiritual or moral evolution". Finding aliens is cool but it doesn't bring us any closer to answering the greatest mysteries of life.

So maybe there are barbaric aliens out there, maybe we're alone here. Either way, the one thing I feel sure about, as sure as I am that I am typing on a computer, is that if there is a key for things, be it finding aliens or anything else, it's intelligence.

 

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At this very moment, an advanced alien civilisation may be trying contact Earth.

But despite our best efforts, we could be oblivious to their messages because humanity do not yet have the means to pick up the signals.

This is according to Dr Nathalie Cabrol, who is leading the hunt for alien life at the Seti Institute in California.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3239085/Super-intelligent-aliens-trying-contact-Earth-humans-stupid-hear-says-Seti-s-scientist.html#ixzz3m6D0Uplj

 

Why we don't hear aliens on radio waves they are using transdimensional phones or something more advanced than radio waves.

 

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What makes me sad is that you didn't even understood what Snowden said, and how obviously was that he exclusively talked about their encryption and not ours.

I still don't agree with him thought.

Any kind of talk that aliens capable of interstellar travel are on some kind of level that we can comprehend and relate to is just pure idiocy. In being very fair, we're maybe 3 evolutionary steps from yelling monosyllabic grunts from a hole in a mountainside panicking over our own shadows...

At best we're a curiosity, at worst a nuisance.

In 100 years, how easily do you think computers will be able to crack encryption you would use right now? And how technologically advanced would a civilization need to be to regularly travel across the galaxy? I think it's fair to say right now will be considered ancient history by the time we're there.

 

If they are much more advanced then why would a superior race be interested in an inferior one like us, just cause more trouble than its worth and a mass panic of the unknown.

 

I posted this on here three years ago, might as well do it again as it is a good read. Very long. Don't expect to finish it in one session. But if you ever wondered why Extraterrestrials or Aliens haven't contacted us, here's a supposed Alien who calls himself Bob explaining why they haven't made contact yet:

http://frombob.to/you/aconvers.html

 

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Any kind of talk that aliens capable of interstellar travel are on some kind of level that we can comprehend and relate to is just pure idiocy. In being very fair, we're maybe 3 evolutionary steps from yelling monosyllabic grunts from a hole in a mountainside panicking over our own shadows...

At best we're a curiosity, at worst a nuisance.

In 100 years, how easily do you think computers will be able to crack encryption you would use right now? And how technologically advanced would a civilization need to be to regularly travel across the galaxy? I think it's fair to say right now will be considered ancient history by the time we're there.

I agree that aliens are so advanced we may not yet have the ability to comprehend anything related to them, but even with our primitive knowledge we will try, because is better to try and use every single bit of our current science than to just accept we're so inferior we shouldn't even try to study them.

 

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Originally Posted by xenophobe

This proves Snowden really didn't have any common sense or any real intelligent thought.

If aliens are able to travel interstellar space, I seriously doubt any encryption we could come up with would generate any sentiment other than "oh, look at the little monkey beings thinking they're talking in private".

Snowden didn't imply anything about the ability to travel interstellar space. He also wasn't implying any extraterrestrial interest in our encryption.
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My personal religious and metaphysical beliefs first of all.

About as baseless a basis as I can imagine.
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Originally Posted by xenophobe

Any kind of talk that aliens capable of interstellar travel are on some kind of level that we can comprehend and relate to is just pure idiocy. In being very fair, we're maybe 3 evolutionary steps from yelling monosyllabic grunts from a hole in a mountainside panicking over our own shadows...

At best we're a curiosity, at worst a nuisance.

In 100 years, how easily do you think computers will be able to crack encryption you would use right now? And how technologically advanced would a civilization need to be to regularly travel across the galaxy? I think it's fair to say right now will be considered ancient history by the time we're there.

None of which has anything at all to do with anything Snowden said, and further affirms that Dargonplay was correct; you don't understand what Snowden said.

Anyway, I disagree with your statements on this largely unrelated topic...The ability to travel across interstellar space is not even that far beyond us. Given the will, we could probably engineer probes capable of reaching and reporting back scientifically relevant data, in the very near future. Nothing about interstellar travel implies the need for faster than light travel, or manned missions. Even manned missions don't imply the need for faster than light travel...just a way to keep the crew alive or revivable after extended periods of time. Also, many things that were done in our ancient history are still quite relevant today.