Originally Posted by curly haired boy

we're not following the law just because it's the law. we're following the law because it provides for content creators to benefit from their hard work. that's the spirit of the law.

laws, whether written or unwritten, are the bedrock of society. people get along when they can agree upon a shared code of conduct. if you unilaterally decide to go against that code of conduct, the community will take action against you. we call that crime and punishment.

Originally Posted by porky

well their is man made law , and their is natural law..............people who blindly follow the law are the type of people who have been responsible for the biggest sins of human kind...........

EG : Look back in south africa 20 years ago , Apartheid law was this to name a few :

Black people were not allowed outside after 8pm
Black people could not use "white" people facilities
Black people had to carry a "pass" if they were out of their designated area.......

soo according to some peoples views , black people , back then , were scumbags for breaking that law?....................remember , it wasent like the government never had the full support of the white majority in S.A back then............soo just because you have a majority who thinks it is "right"...that does not mean it is correct..............

to go back even further , look at the Holocaust , in Germany , if you were JEWISH it was AGAINST the law..............soo essentially , all Jews in Germany were by default , scumbags.............and the majority of the German population believed that and supported the 3rd Reich in their attempt to kill all the Jewish people living their..............



Soo my point being , is Laws are made by man..........thats all......soo yes , follow them , but if you feel they are wrong........voice yourself!

Originally Posted by curly haired boy

quite disappointing. pirates think they have the right to enjoy a created experience without paying for it. i was raised better. i don't bring a video camera to the ballet, and i don't sneak into concerts. it's the same thing.

this just goes to show how destructive this pro-pirating mentality is that game publishers have created.

we've got several trends that have contributed to it:

on the publisher side, we have perhaps the most egregious fault - cramming as many releases as possible into the holiday season. gamers can't possibly buy and play them all, yet the ad campaigns and peer pressure combine to make a lot of them "must-haves". not buying the game is simply not an option - the panting game previews and glowing articles make sure of that.

so how does an underfunded and overeager gamer cope? well, if he's a console gamer, he rents quite a few of the titles, or purchases them at launch, rushing through the single player and hoping to resell the game for a good fraction of cost. this is causing increasing consternation for the publishers, as they see gamestop making money hand over fist from used game sales. or, if he's a PC gamer, his response is to pirate the games. they're made available most times before they even reach stores.

these practices make the publishers consider methods to alleviate the losses from rentals, used games, and pirating - methods such as DRM, DLC, and subscriptions. predictably, gamers decry such methods as evil, and threaten to boycott the purchases. (of course, the boycott of a purchase doesn't mean the boycott of the game. the vast majority of the indignant masses will still go ahead and experience the game through other means, thus making their boycott not only meaningless, but counter-productive.)

in order to increase profits, game publishers have fostered a mentality among gamers. if you're a gamer, you must have a constant stream of content. consume and discard. chew and spit out. heaven forbid you miss anything. you've got to play faster or you won't be able to experience it all!

why?

because if you don't play them now, you'll miss them forever!

the publishers act in concert with the retailers to make sure that games have increasingly shorter times on the shelf. if you can't afford to play game A, don't even think of coming back in six months to find it - it won't be there.

this is why we have a constant supply of shooter clones, and shorter games with 5 and 6 hour single-player modes. the entire industry is changing to produce content that is either quickly finished or can be charged with infinite DLC/subscriptions. you've gotta keep that content flowing. can't stop the consumption.


this is why i love Steam. if a game comes out that i'm interested in, i immediately check to see if it's coming out on Steam. if it is, i breathe a huge sigh of relief. that means i can schedule that purchase into my budget at a later time. i don't have to play it as soon as it comes out - i can buy it when i have the money and time to fully enjoy it. if i'm only ready to buy it 2 years after release, it's no problem. it's still easy to find - it's gaming on MY standards, not the revenue projections of a publisher.

publishers need to space out their releases throughout the year. they'll find it results in fewer rentals, fewer used game sales, and happier customers....not to mention fewer pirates.

Originally Posted by TnB= Gir

They even have a demo ffs. It's only 39Mb. The demo is on Steam if you're curious.

Downloading the demo now. If I like it, you bet I'm gonna buy it.

Originally Posted by gtarmanrob

so theres your problem solved right there. now if theres any other reason for you to download something illegally, you're just a cheap arse.

Originally Posted by Shin2k35

That's pretty much true for all pirates, but you act like that's in insult. It's a form of thrift.