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Old 11-15-08   #151 (permalink)
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i think the problem here is people dont think its good enough to pay money for

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i think the problem here is people dont think its good enough to pay money for

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Then don't have it at all.

If you made something, and someone comes up to you, and goes 'Oh, I don't think that's worth £25'. Then does that mean they can steal it instead? No.
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but that doesent mean they have to buy it!
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Then don't have it at all.

If you made something, and someone comes up to you, and goes 'Oh, I don't think that's worth £25'. Then does that mean they can steal it instead? No.
It's not stealing.



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pi·ra·cy Listen to the pronunciation of piracy
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ˈpī-rə-sē
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Medieval Latin piratia, from Late Greek peirateia, from Greek peiratēs pirate
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1: an act of robbery on the high seas ; also : an act resembling such robbery
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1 a: the act of stealing ; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it b: an unlawful taking (as by embezzlement or burglary) of property
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Get the terminology correct, kids.

Stealing aims to deprive the owner of whatever it is in question. Piracy does not. This is why illegal downloading is piracy and not theft, whilst sales are theft.
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yay!!! i was right all along!@!! everyone rep shin!
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I hate it when people call it stealing. they're wrong, by the very definition of the word.

That doesn't argue that piracy is somehow right (or wrong) just that if people are going to insist that it's stealing then I'm going to repeat this last post ad nauseum.
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As I said, this is semantics. It's depriving the owner of the money they deserve for that item. There is no (relevant) difference between walking into a shop and taking a DVD and downloading a copy of a DVD.

We are not talking about exact terminology here, we are talking about the end results. If you can't see that, you are short-sighted.
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walking into a dvd store and stealing from the shop is then not stealing from the developer.................its stealing from the shop...as the shop has already paid for the dvd....................soo by your definition , it will harm developers less if we steal a hard copy from the shop??
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I did last night. I didn't like it, but I'm gonna have another go, first, before I write it off.
You're one of the pirates I don't have a large quarrel with.

The "try it before I buy it" pirates make sense to me in a way. While I don't do it and I don't agree with it, I can see from your point of view and how you don't want to waste 50 bucks on a mainstream game that doesn't have a demo and you end up wasting your money because you don't like it.

It's the cheap ass pirates that would never buy it in the first place that tick me off.

But there is a free demo for this one, no reason to pirate it now.
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