5entinel

no **** sherlock. You have a Q6600. Does the Average joe have a Q6600?

and xp is faster than Vista.

5entinel

Well Linux OS runs on a PO$ and runs on a amazing system. . This is not new from MS you know. releasing an OS very soon. Do you remember ME and Windows 98? or even windows 2000 and Xp? My point exactly.

NrGx

Vista is faster than XP by far. Open 10 browser windows at once and you'll see the difference between XP and Vista. You're just an XP fanboy. And like the said, the average user doesn't give a damn.

And by the way, don't double post; you freaking do it everywhere!

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5entinel

Hardly mate, You want to build a system that has great scalability. You would want a system that should run on practically any systems, not to say that it should run on a 486 . You again don't understand, there are greater number of "mainstream" consumers than enthusiasts.

and as for double posting its just a habit .

NrGx

I do understand and I've said it again and again; we should not be held beck because some idiots are too poor or dumb to upgrade their systems. I like Vista and I should have the choice to purchase a fast powerful OS that suits my needs.

People said the same thing about Crysis when it came out.

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-iceblade^

cost for enterprises to deploy the OS.
cost for the user who has to buy a new PC just to run the OS.
oh, and let's not forget cost for those people who just don't care about PC's that much

you're forgetting that most home PC's are for simple things web browsing, office work,. etc, and don't need to be ezxtremely powerful - look atthe steam survey and you'll see this point proved. that is a poor poor argument. legacy support is required by microsoft, and if you want to use their OSes then you WILL have to deal with it.

not to mention there is nothing fundamentally improved from Vista to XP. DX10 aside, why does anyone NEED to run vista? (famers aside)

just because you and a couple of hundred thousand people worldwide think that MS should dop this, you think it is smart business sense? it isn't. enthusiasts like us make a small small fraction of the market. they drop it and they suffer, far worse than Vista did. look at the amount of businesses that aren't running vista. are they dumb because their software might not work on Vista?

kif you want a OS that runs around you, try tinkering with Arch Linux - make it as fast as you want. that brings me to my next point. what is fast for you and powerful for you isn't necessarily so for me.

and klastly, re crysis. it just goes to show you, people don't want to have to upgde just to play games, and most people didn't. scalability or not, it's more appreciated if you make something run well on what is there presently than make it work well fior the future. which explains at least partway why the Source engine is so loved.

/rant

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NrGx

So what part of my argument do you not agree with? I want an OS that can play the newest games at the best performance and utilize my system's power to it's maximal potential. Vista does that. As the enthusiast, I like Vista and if Microsoft did not innovate at all we would be stuck with Windows 98.

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-iceblade^

the bolded part mostly

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scottish_jason

doesnt matter what it looks like, its whats under the hood that counts

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eXe.Lilith

Bottom line ?

Vista was never intended to be released to the public in the first place. It only was because MS hit a few major drawbacks (as in security problems that needed quite some time to be solved and would have delayed the OS for too long) so they put something together as best they could from what they already had that was working. That's the reason Vista had so much drivers problems at first, because manufacturers didn't expect the OS to be released so soon, so they were caught off guard and had to work hard to get drivers out asap.

Atm Win 7 is great, they are just 5 major bugs and a few minors, one of which has been found only in the latest build some of us got, as in everytime your comp crashes big time while running a soft or a game using DX9 (as in ocing too much then comp crashes in 3dmark, or in a game, or while using F@H GPU2 client or powerspike that ***pwn resets your comp), well some key DX files get corrupted and you're good for a reinstall
Emailed MS support about this since I encountered the problem yesterday, and they replied they already had a few people to report it and are developping a fix which should get on Win Update next week.
You guys can say whatever you want, but once these bugs are fixed, it'll be better than any OS MS has released since Win98C. WinXP has already been dropped by MS support and doesn't have 10% of the stuff Win 7 has in stock for its users. Especially when it comes to gaming, home networking and computer security. Most of you are just whining but you'll make the jump when you'll see it actually performs really good. You just have to see it for yourself which is understandable, but don't ***** about the OS until you've deeply tested it.

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