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I never preordered(I do that rarely nowadays) And sure as hell im not going to buy this peace of turd.

I think DICE just got another sale.

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The worst part is that we, like the console gamers, will never be able to choose the maps we play on, nor whether friendly fire is on or off, nor whether hardcore is enabled.

Just sucks....
did i miss something? where does it say all of that?
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I cancelled my pre order here. They had a chance to make things right, but chose not only to ignore our feedback but rub it in our faces. Pity, I was really looking forward to this game... same with SC2. I can live with no LAN support for SC2, but no mods, no dedicated servers, and being tied to Valve are all nut cracking deal breakers for me!
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All I know is that the new battlefield BC2 looks amazing. I can wait - Sorry IW, your priorities are screwed and I hope you learn how much by the end of November.
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did i miss something? where does it say all of that?
Picking ones's maps, HC or FF status was all part of the server browsing experience. If the IWNet match-making is anything like it is on the 360, we lose all of that functionality.
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I also canceled my pre order! They can kiss my but all they want but I am not going to but that game now.
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The reason people couldn't find servers, and the game was full of hackers, has nothing to do with dedicated servers.

Its because everyone is playing a different version of the game! I'm playing 1.6 right now, but a friend of mine is playing 1.1 because different servers show up!

There is no authentication in the game, no automatic updates, and only basic cd-validation.

Moving to VAC was a good idea, but honestly that was all they needed to do. They are acting like even with VAC, you still need listen servers for the game to work.

They are basically trying to mirror the L4D system, only without dedicated servers. But the funny thing is that L4D's matchmaking sucks compared to CSS and TF2.
No, they're trying to copy the console matchmaking. Another example of a company "helping" you by taking away your ability to choose. (yay Microsoft)

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TBH I kind of agree with this.... it's exactly why I don't touch L4D vs. anymore.

I don't have the time to maintain a team, most of my friends are on at random times, and I'm better than noobs. That means I'm pretty much screwed for getting a fun game.
This is the only reason I still play L4D. I have friends who are modders that I met there, and we have a blast creating our own servers and mods.

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This. lol. I still play RtCW: ET sometimes.

Even though I was never going to buy this, I'm outraged because if a big name gets away with it and is successful(dollars and cents-wise, not necessarily fun factor), it will most likely become the norm for all games following.

I put this in the Kotaku Petition thread when this article was linked to there but I'm reposting it here because it applies.


Either way, the community will die quickly in this game. MW1 will outlive it. No dedicated servers, no mods, no clans, no competitive play. All that is pretty much what determines the longevity of any online FPS. Big name will get you sales but if the online play doesn't back it up, it will die quickly.
It won't die quickly, there just won't be a community. Trying to recreate the console experience on PC is just plain stupid, a mistake they're very soon going to realize... This game will sell like crazy on consoles, but they just killed any chance of success in the PC market. Promises of maybe having dedicated servers down the road are BS and nobody in the PC market is going to buy that.

I was thinking about buying this, but there is no way I'm going to now. IW doesn't realize that the reason COD4 was so popular was the fact that it matched exactly what people were looking for, not because of their skill in game creation. There were options for every type of gamer. Would anybody still be playing it after almost 2 years if there were no modding community or ability to create a dedicated server? No way in hell.
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I do have to say that COD WAW has very few (at least at the ping that I prefer) servers that are completely stock.

Even the ones that look stock have had movement speeds increased (which makes rifles almost useless) or damage increased making weapons more lethal (again favoring smgs).

I pretty much gave up on it once the standard, stock servers vanished. HC is still fun occasionally but unless you go rifles only HC (many of which have wierd rules like crouching movement only...), you end up with HC servers filled with.. you guessed it SMG players.

If SMG's weren't so bloody accurate at mid and long range it wouldn't matter but they are.
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So adding this new matchmaking system seems to be their solution to their already working dedicated server system?

You don't impress me with words IW, I want clear view before I will judge. But I doubt this is going to be ANY better.

Who's going to monitor cheaters? infact, how many are going to monitor these cheaters?
you cant assign admins to servers anymore, because we don't own them. And unless IW is willing to recruit alot of people for this task, I fail to see how this is going to be more effective.

Then, these so called complaints? Ive never had issues with cheaters on PB secured servers. But joining one without security was overkill at instant. Everyone was cheating there, and (obvious) those who did cheat got global PB banned. Oh the irony!
Hell, i bet half of the complaints came from banned users who got stuck playing on none secured servers filled with other cheaters.
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imo if they were going to do this they should have allowed for 3 things
1. Dedicated server browser
2. their stupid matchamking thing
3. cross platform. (yeah i know, but seriously it would shut up all the annoying 360 fan-boys out there that think 360 is better than PC and the 360 players that think they are better than PC players. it would be fun)
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