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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #61 (permalink)
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True, what about Pbbans and the others ones? where would they fit as extra security?
That's true. But Pbbans is more of a global ban list rather then a better a cheat detect.

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PB kicks everyone for random errors.
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VAC can work better in certain situations. If you get VAC banned then you are banned from every game that uses the engine. I'm sure hackers are more fearful of that happening then getting banned from a single game as with Punkbuster.
More games use PB though, and then you can use PBBans which, iirc, is a global ban list for all PB games.

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Right, I forgot that time when I dd purchased valve games from the EA store.
/sarcasm.
No, but you forgot about the time EA was a publisher for Valve, so you earn one free failboat trip for sarcasm in a discussion you know little about.

You seem to not be comprehending my point. My point was that Valves relationship with other devs using steam is no more of a conflict of interests than your average publisher. No one is asking EA to spin off their publishing and dev divisions. In regards to a conflict of interests with them putting out valve products only on steam....its a smart business decision. Why would they ever pay someone else for digital dist when they've already got it all set up? Again, your sarcasm seems to be extremely misplaced and off point.
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Sounds like a bit of jealousy to me. Valve
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