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I remember posting something epic in this thread.
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I remember posting something epic in this thread.
I guess it rode off, like that thing in your avatar.
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Another couple reasons why I am not buying MW2.
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I guess it rode off, like that thing in your avatar.
More then likely it was the fly on the horses back that rode off with your dedicated servers. lol I'm just playing
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CoD1 is only on consoles now with XBox Arcade and Playstation Network. It was not released on the consoles originally.
I was talking about things like CoD2 and the CoD:finest hour and such (the ones that didn't make it to the PC).

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For *me* and most of the people I play with, dedicated servers are ESSENTIAL for an FPS. You build a community out of it. You don't know anybody? Try servers until you find one you like. Play there. You'll get to know people, build friendships and rivalries. Join the clan eventually. Help support the server.
I run a clan, and pay out $200 a month for a dedicated server which I host a number of CS:S servers. I even run L4D servers, a Crysis Wars one from time to time, and even did a CoD4 one at one point in time.

Again - I agree with the discontent about the lack of dedicated servers. But IMO, I'm not simply going to pass up what could be an amazing sequel just because of no dedicated servers.

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KICKING people who are jerks, obvious cheaters/hacks... It's going to be lovely relying on an anti-cheat to get rid of all cheaters, isn't it? VAC and PB games alike, the only reason we are not OVERRUN with raging aimbots and such is because we have the ability to kick them.
Again again, I agree. I never really said opposite.

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We are pissed. I am not demanding they add dedicated servers in. I am pissed that they are straying so far from their roots. Yes, their roots. CoD1 was NOT ON CONSOLES when released. We have the right not only to not buy a game that we are unhappy with, but we can do what we can to tell others of our dissatisfaction. You seem to believe that we should not be allowed to do this.
I'm not saying you can't show your dissatification, but you posted a thread about them saying that their PC features include blah blah blah and how you were so overwhelmed by their innovation.
What did you expect them to say in response to the question for you to post such a sarcastic response?

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The only conceivable reasons I can see for removing dedicated servers are:
A) Laziness. Unlikely, as setting up IW.Net is likely as much work/cost as just allowing dedicated servers. I don't think this is true.
Again, also don't disagree.

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B) Control/DLC. It'll be hard to market DLC when people have mods running on servers. Solution? Don't allow it. This is kind of feasible.
Well, people haven't had this problem at all with games like Battlefield. Dice specifically makes it so servers can only be rented out with EXCLUSIVE providers. WHICH IS COMPLETE HYPOCRISY, yet everyone all of sudden treats them like heroes of the PC gaming community because of IW's decision not to put dedicated servers in.
Dice's little exclusive providing crap can fall into the same exact category, but I don't see people doing the backflips they are doing to MW2 as they are to BF:BC2.

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C) Anti-piracy. Understandable, but uhh, let's be fair. 360 has had people playing the leaked version and beating it already. It is more common for a big title to be leaked on 360 than not. (And games leaking early in the PC community is very relatively rare)
Again I agree as I myself have played and beat the game already. The games get leaked both online and via ebay all the time. But, there is a massive difference such as the mass console bannings and lack of online.

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If you don't care about dedicated servers, you will not understand this. If you don't understand this, then stop trying to debate EVERY SINGLE PERSON that does not like what IW has done.
You seemed to ignore what I said multiple times.
I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THE DEDICATED SERVER RUCKUS. For the 100th time!
What I disagree with is... "I demand this" and "I am entitled to that" crap.

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A prerequisite for a competitive FPS for me is a dedicated server. I do not enjoy competitive multiplayer FPS games without that option. It would be like getting mad at somebody for discarding a 2 door car because they want a 4 door. "Heeeyyy, just try it! You might like it with 2 doors, and it still drives, right?"
Then thats your thing. Don't buy it. I can't control your money. You can't control mine. I just don't see what that has to do with you posting a news thread about their one line quote interview about PC features.

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Ya know I got to say I came down pretty hard on Omega in his youtube thread and thought he was wrong. But with that being said I see more maturity from this guy with his post here then I've seen from alot of our older members who have college degrees.

Instead of whining about all the "crap" he's actually focused on the good and imo been pretty spot on with most of his arguments.
Thank you for seeing my point.

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I guess it rode off, like that thing in your avatar.
ROFLMAO

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I am just stating an opinion in the form of a question.
Publicly stating it allows me to receive an answer, hopefully.
And I am just answering your question with a question that clearly went over your head.

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The only reason I will be playing MW2 for the PC will be for the single player. I've always been a huge fan of their story modes.
So then why post? Can't read? He clearly said no more of this singleplayer crap.
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Burn. But I'll try it again, hopefully it won't disappear. I'll do a TL;DR summary:

CoD is a staunch competitive/multiplayer series for many people, so the removal of dedicated server support from MW2 isn't just modifying a feature nobody uses; it is removing the one aspect of MW2 that would have made it worthy of the COD moniker.

Sure, some people still buy COD for single player, but I'm sure the numbers pale in comparison to online and competitive play.
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Burn. But I'll try it again, hopefully it won't disappear. I'll do a TL;DR summary:

CoD is a staunch competitive/multiplayer series for many people, so the removal of dedicated server support from MW2 isn't just modifying a feature nobody uses; it is removing the one aspect of MW2 that would have made it worthy of the COD moniker.

Sure, some people still buy COD for single player, but I'm sure the numbers pale in comparison to online and competitive play.
probably have alotta ppl just pirating the single player with the loss of the servers

will be interesting to see how the pc sales go
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Ugh, forget it, your style of forum debate is tiring. You win. I will buy MW2 and enjoy it.
dude there is no need for that
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Burn. But I'll try it again, hopefully it won't disappear. I'll do a TL;DR summary:

CoD is a staunch competitive/multiplayer series for many people, so the removal of dedicated server support from MW2 isn't just modifying a feature nobody uses; it is removing the one aspect of MW2 that would have made it worthy of the COD moniker.

Sure, some people still buy COD for single player, but I'm sure the numbers pale in comparison to online and competitive play.
The problem is, they replaced one aspect of MW2 and inserted another. How do you know if its 'good' or not? For all anyone or myself knows, the multiplayer could be pretty damn awesome and the P2P thing will be your last thought as you're raping people. It could also be as horrible as poop, but you then have to ask yourself is it because of the lack of dedicated server. We can't do that because there is no game yet to judge!

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Ugh, forget it, your style of forum debate is tiring. You win. I will buy MW2 and enjoy it.
I'm not trying to.... win you over to buy the game. Again - you do what you want with your money, I'll do what I want with mine. But you're posting on an internet forums. I'm questioning your reasoning, yet you jump to conclusions about me that I disagree with everything you say.

I'm finding the lack of logic behind the fact that just because there is no dedicated, means the game is 'insta-fail' as someone put it frankly earlier.
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Ugh, forget it, your style of forum debate is tiring. You win. I will buy MW2 and enjoy it.
You would disappoint us all
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