GTA IV Thread **Spoilers**

[AKAeric]

Michelle told me I drove like a gangster a split second before I slammed into a semi launching us both through the windshield... no warm coffee on that date, lol

[Sonic]

Looks like I'm going to buy this game if I can find it(likely going to BB), I'll checkout the Rocketfish if they still have any left..

Finally put my 360 to good use.

[Chris627]

One of the reporters on the daily show reported from Liberty City lol

[RAFFY]

For all of you people who havent gone to the ROFL/LMAO CLUB GO THERE!!! KAT WILLAMS does standup there!!!

Originally Posted by x2s3w4

Attention! May be some spoilers. I'm only 5% in so far.

OK I want to emphasize I completely SUUUUUUUCK so far at this game. I've played all the other GTA games on PC and have never played on Xbox like I'm playing now. I'm only 5% into the game, so far the game is pretty easy, but I'm going to be in BIG trouble soon. I can't drive, I can't run or fight well so I might need a little help.
Has anyone found any weapons so far? I've looked a little. If you find some note where you find them.
Has anyone/everyone found that rich guy that gives Nicco $100? Are there any more people like that?
I don't care about spoilers.

The game is TOTALLY awesome so far!!!

lol that white kid is a crack head that u meet 2 more times for a total of 3 after that and then in downtown new york you meet a black kid who's a wanna be rapper that gives u money too!!!

Originally Posted by AKAeric

Michelle told me I drove like a gangster a split second before I slammed into a semi launching us both through the windshield... no warm coffee on that date, lol

is it just me or is michelle a slut? first date i took her to a bar got her drunk and banged her afterwards and now whenever i date her i always screw her afterwards, lol. did my GTA 4 cum w/an extra slutty michelle?

[Ecchi-BANZAII!!!]

Originally Posted by xdaseinx

All your criticisms are valid. But IMO, I don't think you know how to play this game. Driving around and causing havoc is a lot more fun than trying to complete tasks and the beat the game. I think your personality doesn't suit this game.

Woah wait a minute, who are you talking about? me? I do the same stuff. About 1% is doing quests and 99% is havocking town and race^^

[gtarmanrob]

Originally Posted by Ecchi-BANZAII!!!

Woah wait a minute, who are you talking about? me? I do the same stuff. About 1% is doing quests and 99% is havocking town and race^^

lol he's not talking about you mate.

he clearly quoted Crazy9000 haha

[Vostro]

Originally Posted by RAFFY

is it just me or is michelle a slut? first date i took her to a bar got her drunk and banged her afterwards and now whenever i date her i always screw her afterwards, lol. did my GTA 4 cum w/an extra slutty michelle?

Nope... Shes a whore. Always calling me, so I pick her up, take her to the bar, we get hammered, I lose my car so i steal one, go back to her place and score all night long. Its the same thing every time...

[VulcanDragon]

Originally Posted by Crazy9000

After playing GTA4 for about 2½ hours, I can say it doesn't live up to ANY of the hype.

Single player: The missions are boring and menial. I like how you have a choice of what ones you do, and how you can blow people off, but other then that the single player is pretty poor. I highly doubt I will ever beat the game.

Being only a few missions (about two hours) in I cannot say this with certainty, but based on past GTAs I would argue that you can't judge the entire game based on the early missions that are designed to "teach you the game". San Andreas was similar...early missions were pretty boring, I don't even think you got a handgun until several missions in. But by the end of the game you were sneaking onto an aircraft carrier and stealing a fighter jet! If history repeats, the missions will get more interesting.

Graphics: With all the review sites giving this game a full 10 for graphics, they should have been Assassins Creed meets Burnout Paradise. What we got was alot better then GTA3, but the graphics are pretty poor. I got a budget racing game awile ago, it was $35 new, and the graphics blow GTA away. There really is no excuse for the graphics being under par with a game of this caliber.

I don't think you're going to find too many people that agree with you. It is clearly not the best looking game around, so giving graphics a "10" may be extreme. But so is calling them "pretty poor".

Fighting system: I've found the gun system acceptable, but the hand-to-hand combat is horrible. In the previous GTA games you could just go on the street and kick some random guys ass with a few clicks, then run away with his money. Now, you get into a boring 5 hour long boxing match, and every other person on the street jumps in against you. I wanted to kick one guys ass, not get into a street brawl with 15 other people.

Sounds to me like you're wanting GTA4 to be GTA3, which it was established loooooong ago that that would not be the case. The more "realistic" aspects about fighting and stealing cars were revealed long ago...any expectation that you can just walk up to a stranger, sucker punch them to score some free cash, and waltz away scot free was a mistaken expectation. In this aspect, the game has lived up exactly to the hype.

I actually found it quite interesting...I did exactly what I would have done in GTA3, I walked up and beat down some random chick. Some dude came barreling out of the trailer I was standing next to to "help her" by attacking me. I thought it was a pretty cool dynamic myself.

As for driving, I really wished they had let the cars turn better at high speeds, but I guess they were going for a more realistic approach.

Yep, the high speed turns are taking a little getting used to. I am curious as to why you find this aspect of "realism" that changes historical GTA gameplay acceptable, but not the other ones?

I give the game 6/10 overall. Note that I'm mostly going over the negative parts, as everyones already said enough praise about the game. My opinion that it's a sub-par offering stands though.

I would be surprised if you didn't raise that score somewhat, once you get used to the new gameplay aspects and get into some more interesting missions. I find it hard to believe that every major review outlet (with reviewers who have played the game to completion) can all be wrong.

[Crazy9000]

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

Being only a few missions (about two hours) in I cannot say this with certainty, but based on past GTAs I would argue that you can't judge the entire game based on the early missions that are designed to "teach you the game". San Andreas was similar...early missions were pretty boring, I don't even think you got a handgun until several missions in. But by the end of the game you were sneaking onto an aircraft carrier and stealing a fighter jet! If history repeats, the missions will get more interesting.

Perhaps, but do we really need a 5 hour tutorial? How stupid do they think I am? Maybe they should have put all the tutorials on the phone and shown you how to access them, and skipped all the BS on the missions.

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

I don't think you're going to find too many people that agree with you. It is clearly not the best looking game around, so giving graphics a "10" may be extreme. But so is calling them "pretty poor".

I don't know if I only have good looking games or something, but GTA4 is the worst looking game I own for my ps3. Compared to the other console games, GTA4 just doesn't live up to the standard of graphics that we've been seeing on the 360 and ps3. The reviewers seem to have cut it slack, making excuses like the city is large, and there's a lot of people, but honestly there are other games like assassins creed that have large cities and lots of people, and still look nice.

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

Sounds to me like you're wanting GTA4 to be GTA3, which it was established loooooong ago that that would not be the case. The more "realistic" aspects about fighting and stealing cars were revealed long ago...any expectation that you can just walk up to a stranger, sucker punch them to score some free cash, and waltz away scot free was a mistaken expectation. In this aspect, the game has lived up exactly to the hype.

The problem is, you are a tough guy raised on the streets in Russia from what I've seen. He should be able to knock the average American on their ass without any problem, especially since they shouldn't see it coming. From the missions I've played, the main character clearly knows how to fight. I should get the first punch in fine, and it should knock them down.

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

I actually found it quite interesting...I did exactly what I would have done in GTA3, I walked up and beat down some random chick. Some dude came barreling out of the trailer I was standing next to to "help her" by attacking me. I thought it was a pretty cool dynamic myself.

While this seems like a neat addition, it's way overdone in the game. I punched one guy, then two people off the street run up to help him, and a truck driver stops, jumps out and pulls a knife.

Did I just punch the most popular guy in the city or something? I would prefer to see this feature come in to effect more rarely, and to a much lesser extent. Although I do have to give it credit for the fact that when you pull a glock, it seems people are much less willing to help out.

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

Yep, the high speed turns are taking a little getting used to. I am curious as to why you find this aspect of "realism" that changes historical GTA gameplay acceptable, but not the other ones?

This change is okay because it gives you a reason to go less then 120mph. You now have the choice of either going a reasonable speed and taking a lot of side streets to loose someone, or you can pedal to the metal hoping to outrun them (or a combo of both). Also if you have a crappy sedan you can loose the sports car by making sharper turns then it would be able to flying after you.

Originally Posted by VulcanDragon

I would be surprised if you didn't raise that score somewhat, once you get used to the new gameplay aspects and get into some more interesting missions. I find it hard to believe that every major review outlet (with reviewers who have played the game to completion) can all be wrong.

Perhaps, but how long should we have to play a game to get into it? I think people are cutting GTA4 too much slack, as they loved the other ones so much.

[VulcanDragon]

Originally Posted by Crazy9000

I think people are cutting GTA4 too much slack, as they loved the other ones so much.

Good points. I just remember when I started San Andreas that I wasn't too keen on it, mostly for a lot of the same reasons (slow start, I was comparing it to Vice City too much, etc.) But by the time I got to the end, I was calling it the best game of the year.