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Old 01-26-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why are my temps so bad?! D:

First time I got bad temps, I reseated. Didn't help. I lapped my CPU and got a whopping 2C off. Tried a different AS5 method. Lost 2C. Regardless of if I have my GPU in my loop or not, I get bad temps (rules out my radiator which I was pretty sure wasn't it anyway -- isn't even warm to the touch. That, and running my rad passive doesn't increase temps much either.)

This time, I got a backplate, used the 'spread' method on my AS5, and now I'm at 59C load Orthos (from 65C.) Thing is, on a very mediocore heatsink (GlacialTech Igloo 5750 Silent) I got 62C load on stock preapplied paste. Whadafux?

I've tried everything and temps are still very BLEH. My GPU temps are great (~37C idle, ~45C load) so the only thing I can think of:
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  • Block is fugged. (I removed slag, I rotated it couterclockwise 90 degrees, same bleh temps.)
  • Hot running chip. (Easy thing would be to blame it on this, but I don't wanna buy a quad down the road and be hit with the same bad temp situation)

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Any gunk in the loop?
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I run at 59/60 load according to coretemp 0.96. If I use a different version of speedfan, it shows 10C-15C less.
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None. I just filled up my loop on Thursday -- I've been draining everytime I redo my AS5. (because I had too -- bad toobz routing to the point I had to drain my loop to take off my Fuzion.)
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Can we get a closeup pic of the FuZion mounted? I remember one user recently had the springs underneath the hold down plate, and this was the source of his bad temperatures. Make sure you haven't made the same mistake Pookie
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You might have the same problem I have, which is coretemp showing bad readings.
My chip shows about 60C load at stock (doesn't make sense for a 35W TDP chip).
I'm guessing the temps are 10-15C higher than real temps.
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I'm hoping it's just due to the hot nature of the E21x0s, since the IHS isn't soldered on on these chips ... but I don't want to assume that and be slapped in the face with horrible temps next time I get a new CPU.

And I'm not using the stock mounting bolts, using the 'pro-mount kit'. The stock kit was replaced the last time I redid my loop (Thurs.)

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CoreTemp shows the right temps, programs that don't go by tjsensors (read: SpeedFan) read 10-15C too low.
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Man I don't know Pook...I really thought that back-plate would of helped more...One thing you say it doesn't make much of a difference if you run rad fans or if you run the rad passive, have you got some higher cfm fans to try on it? 120x38mm seem to scavenge air through a rad better to me...


Does the top of your block feel warm? You might not be able to feel much of a difference with plain WC'ing but if it feels a little warmer you know the block is transferring heat.....


And do you have high room ambient temps? High ambients will affect temp's a lot with WC'ing it even affects TEC temp's but to a smaller degree...If all else fails stick that 437W on it....
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Do you have any friends with a cpu block they'd let you use to test? Seems to be the best solution right now...
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My old mobo (Intel D850GB), not OC'd, running a 1.5 GHz PIV w/stock cooling always showed around 10-15 degrees F hotter than actual temp through an Intel temp monitoring program. I had a thermocouple mounted in a hole drilled in the heatsink directly over the center of the die on the CPU. I'd trust it before the sensors built into the CPU/board anyday.
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