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i've been hearing the same thing everywhere about the mcw60 being less restrictive, but this seems to say the opposite

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...highlight=ione

The MCW60 is the least restrictive block out there for GPU's.

The D-TEK Fuzion damn near needs it's own loop per card...

Full-Coverage blocks are very restrictive, shoot just look at it, doesn't take a rocket scientist, just common sense....

Here are Viper John's blocks.... (uses cloned Apogee base plates)

http://imageevent.com/marginjohn/viperjohn
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The MCW60 is the least restrictive block out there for GPU's.

The D-TEK Fuzion damn near needs it's own loop per card...

Full-Coverage blocks are very restrictive, shoot just look at it, doesn't take a rocket scientist, just common sense....

Here are Viper John's blocks.... (uses cloned Apogee base plates)

http://imageevent.com/marginjohn/viperjohn
i don't know that much about water cooling, if you see my other thread i just finished getting everything for my setup but martins testings seem to be reliable from what i've gathered. maybe i didn't understand the charts or understand what he said correctly.

this was from the last paragraph
"I was a bit suprised to see it was actually less restrictive than my MCW-60 but it is. "
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i don't know that much about water cooling, if you see my other thread i just finished getting everything for my setup but martins testings seem to be reliable from what i've gathered. maybe i didn't understand the charts or understand what he said correctly.

this was from the last paragraph
"I was a bit suprised to see it was actually less restrictive than my MCW-60 but it is. "
Danger Den is known for paying attention to restriction. Their newer full coverage blocks have very wide channels which reduce restriction.
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i don't know that much about water cooling, if you see my other thread i just finished getting everything for my setup but martins testings seem to be reliable from what i've gathered. maybe i didn't understand the charts or understand what he said correctly.

this was from the last paragraph
"I was a bit suprised to see it was actually less restrictive than my MCW-60 but it is. "
Goto his "FLOWRATE ESTIMATOR", let it do the work for you, then come back and tell me which block has the "HIGHEST FLOWRATE"....

Martin's Flowrate Estimator

Now don't cheat little man, keep all variables the same, only changing GPU BLOCKS...

SEE YA............ Happy Estimating..........
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Goto his "FLOWRATE ESTIMATOR", let it do the work for you, then come back and tell me which block has the "HIGHEST FLOWRATE"....

Martin's Flowrate Estimator

Now don't cheat little man, keep all variables the same, only changing GPU BLOCKS...

SEE YA............ Happy Estimating..........
i have version 2.8 of the flow rate estimator,
the only gpus listed are
dd ione
dd 8800gtx
dd maze 5
ek fc3850
ek fc 88
xspc razor 3870

which one would be the equivalent of the mcw60?

ok had to update it to 2.9
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Goto his "FLOWRATE ESTIMATOR", let it do the work for you, then come back and tell me which block has the "HIGHEST FLOWRATE"....

Martin's Flowrate Estimator

Now don't cheat little man, keep all variables the same, only changing GPU BLOCKS...

SEE YA............ Happy Estimating..........
ok so i did what you said, i just had a pump and gpu listed
when i have 3.2 pump and mcw 60 it says 3.39 gpm 12.83 lpm
when i switch to dd 8800gtx it says 3.55 13.44

bigger is better correct?
so i guess i'm telling you the dd full covers have the "HIGHEST FLOWRATE"
i can post screenshot if you'd like
lol u didn't even check before all the sarcasm...
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Updated with your info on the Black ice xtremes ira, and I also added a coolant section.
I would have to agree with you that one of the most popular coolant mixtures is:

- Distilled Water + G11 + PT_Nuke

I have also used the following and had great success:

- Distilled Water + Primochill Liquid Utopia
- Distilled Water + PT_Nuke

Obviously there are other various combinations and other coolant alternatives. I would also recommend Feser One and PrimoChill pre-mixed coolant as you already mentioned

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ok so i did what you said, i just had a pump and gpu listed
when i have 3.2 pump and mcw 60 it says 3.39 gpm 12.83 lpm
when i switch to dd 8800gtx it says 3.55 13.44

bigger is better correct?
so i guess i'm telling you the dd full covers have the "HIGHEST FLOWRATE"
i can post screenshot if you'd like
lol u didn't even check before all the sarcasm...

Didn't check the DD full coverage block. MY BAD, I ADMIT I AM WRONG @ FLOWRATE.

But still correct, in that you will have an expensive paperweight when upgrading to another videocard, if using a "full coverage" block...
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