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Old 06-15-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default High High Temps?

Just got a new case (thermaltake Armor+) and threw the swiftech kit in and i have unusually really high temps? like 46-51 in idle....the case is huge and has great circulation the only thing i really changed was that i mounted my radiator at the bottom of the case could that be the problem?
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Are you pulling cooler ambient air through the rad, or are you pulling the case air through it and out the bottom? Make sure you have good air flow through your rad, keep it open all around the rad...What cfm fans are you using on it?

Is your loop bleed out real well, you have yo get all the air out, shake your rad if you can and see if its all out of it...Really rock your box from front to back and side to side, air likes to hide in blocks, fittings and rads...

Is your block mounted well? Make sure your block is going all the way down on the IHS, see if it could be hitting a cap or something else on your mobo that would keep it from making good contact...

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I will check those things out ... i think one of my main problems is my fluid is erally milky for some reason i let it chill and bubbles dissapear and then i turn it on and instantly milky again ... also i had the cfm fans 1 sucking air from outside the case in through the rad and into the case and 1 blowing down through the rad out the bottom of the case but now i have them both sucking from bottom of case and pulling air through rad into the case....i used crap TIM for mounting some artic blue stuff i read was awful on another site so i am going to hit the store and get some new as5 and reseat it also i have a feeling im going to need to change out this milky water is there an easy way to drain without a t connector i have just a closed loop and dont want to rip everything out for the 3rd time in 2 days but even with all those things at its worst is it possible to have temps that high? i never seen any liquid cooling system even at its worst with that high of temps
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I will check those things out ... i think one of my main problems is my fluid is erally milky for some reason i let it chill and bubbles dissapear and then i turn it on and instantly milky again ... also i had the cfm fans 1 sucking air from outside the case in through the rad and into the case and 1 blowing down through the rad out the bottom of the case but now i have them both sucking from bottom of case and pulling air through rad into the case....i used crap TIM for mounting some artic blue stuff i read was awful on another site so i am going to hit the store and get some new as5 and reseat it also i have a feeling im going to need to change out this milky water is there an easy way to drain without a t connector i have just a closed loop and dont want to rip everything out for the 3rd time in 2 days but even with all those things at its worst is it possible to have temps that high? i never seen any liquid cooling system even at its worst with that high of temps
Its probably the mount since its that high, you might want to try a re-mount with whatever TIM you have, it couldn't do anything but help with temp's that high.....It being milky looking is because of air still being in it, leave the cap off your res all the time your bleeding it...

Just take a lower line loose to drain it..

What do you mean closed loop? you have to have a t-line or a res to bleed it, the air in the loop has to come out somewhere...

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i changed the cfm fans to both sucking ambient air through the rad into the case and now i get a 43c idle and under full load not more than 48c but i will still reseat it and hope for the best but i have a ghetto rigged 939 mounting plate on my am2 board so that might be the issue .... but i have a res to bleed i want to get a tline for easy fill where should i splice it in, where the res would be? also the temps are getting better but still no where near they should be ill let you guys know as the day goes on thanks guys!
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I will check those things out ... i think one of my main problems is my fluid is erally milky for some reason i let it chill and bubbles dissapear and then i turn it on and instantly milky again ... also i had the cfm fans 1 sucking air from outside the case in through the rad and into the case and 1 blowing down through the rad out the bottom of the case but now i have them both sucking from bottom of case and pulling air through rad into the case....i used crap TIM for mounting some artic blue stuff i read was awful on another site so i am going to hit the store and get some new as5 and reseat it also i have a feeling im going to need to change out this milky water is there an easy way to drain without a t connector i have just a closed loop and dont want to rip everything out for the 3rd time in 2 days but even with all those things at its worst is it possible to have temps that high? i never seen any liquid cooling system even at its worst with that high of temps

Sounds like you still have air in the system.

If you have a reservoir take the top off and let the system bleed.

To do that pull the 20/24 pin connector off the mobo as well as the 4/8 pin. Ground the green wire to the black wire on your 20/24 pin connector, metal paperclip works well, and let the pump run. Starting and stopping the power supply every couple of minutes can help with the air bubles as well. This can take a long time so be patient.

With air.


After bleeding is complete


You can't see it but I used a spare PSU to turn the pump on and off. That's whay it slooks as if my power supply is attached to the board.
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alright thanks for that and the pictures that top 1 is the exact same what my system looks like i even have the same fluid as you i bet ProICE? i have that blue milky color
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Using Pentosin (SP) from Petras but it is a blue UV coolant.
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sorry to be a nub when when u say connect the green to the black wire...which black wire...theres like 10 does it matter or are they all grounds?

Edit:
I have a spare powersupply should i do it that way so that i would not need to remove the 20/24pin and the 4/8pin and just control the pump with 2nd psu

EDIT EDIT:
ok i got the power supply grounded and able to shut on and off my pump too bleed but i feel like im not getting anywhere how long do i leave the pump on and how long do i turn it off for? is there anything else i can do to try and get the bubbles out i feel like theres more bubbles than fluid
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sorry to be a nub when when u say connect the green to the black wire...which black wire...theres like 10 does it matter or are they all grounds?

Edit:
I have a spare powersupply should i do it that way so that i would not need to remove the 20/24pin and the 4/8pin and just control the pump with 2nd psu

EDIT EDIT:
ok i got the power supply grounded and able to shut on and off my pump too bleed but i feel like im not getting anywhere how long do i leave the pump on and how long do i turn it off for? is there anything else i can do to try and get the bubbles out i feel like theres more bubbles than fluid
Glad you figured out the PSU, I was at a family gathering and didn't see this until now.

It can take a while. Just let it run like that and make sure you watch the fluid level so it, stays above the barbs.
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