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Old 07-14-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Temps

Ambient: 19C

CPU Idle: 24C
CPU Load: 43C

GPU Idle: 41C
GPU Load: 51C

E6600: 3.6GHz (9x400MHz) @ 1.425v (load)
8800GTS (G80): 621MHz core, 972MHz memory, stock voltage.

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Acceptable temps? Remount in order? Or am I just clinically insane?
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A 24C ambient to delta load looks great to me with your OC. Later on I would go ahead and do a few remounts just to see if you can get it lower, right now I would kick back and enjoy a job well done for awhile...

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Yea, unfortunately I don't have a temp sensor to place inline to get a rad out to ambient measurement... One of these days when I'm not fishing...or working.
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Wooooork......Please quit cursing......I was talking about your room ambient to load delta, your at a 24C room ambient to load, thats great with a OC'ed quad, I guess your having to bump up your v-core some...

I need to do some re-mounts on mine I'm around a 20C over room ambient at load..But my IHS is cupped a little to, I'll have to pull it out and lap it, then try some re-mounts...I was in to big a hurry to start playing with it to want to lap it at that time...

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I'm not on a quad. I'm on a dual.

And yes, I realize I have a 24C ambient to load delta. But I thought the most accurate measurement was the water temp on the outlet side of the radiator relative to the ambient temperature, no? You keep mentioning a performance setup has 5C or less rad out to ambient delta. You've got me curious now...
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My delta is 26.7, so you got me beat by 2.7șC.

e7200 @ 3.5Ghz
Ambient room: ....27șC
Air in @ rad: .........9.3șC
Water @ Res:......12șC
CPU Idle:.............13șC
Full Load:............36șC

So, I think you can forgo the straitjacket ATM.
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I'm not on a quad. I'm on a dual.

And yes, I realize I have a 24C ambient to load delta. But I thought the most accurate measurement was the water temp on the outlet side of the radiator relative to the ambient temperature, no? You keep mentioning a performance setup has 5C or less rad out to ambient delta. You've got me curious now...
Oh OK...Ooops.....Yeah you might be able to get that down some.Did you straight-edge your IHS before you used it to see if it needed lapping? If thats fine and your sure you've worked all the air out of you loop I would try some re-mounts...

Rad out to ambient is the best measurement of a rad's performance,and over all loop performance, well that and your actual CPU temp's...

You really need to keep to a 5C and under rad out to ambient if your looking for higher performance...I like a 1 or 2 when I'm on plain water...I'm at a 3C rad out with my TEC when its running, bugs me to no end, but thats really good considering I have around a 600W load on it...

The 5C is what Martin and I have kind of come to a conclusion on..If your at a 10C rad out there are HSF's that can get you that kind of performance..

I can show you how to make a inexpensive, pretty well non restrictive in-line probe, thats pretty accurate,if you interested...Its less then $30 for each one...


EDIT: What v-core are you at Dryad? I've backed my clock back down to 420*9, and I'm still having to use a 1.32 v-core, I'm loading around 20C over ambient, unless my temp sensors are out of whack..

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Yea, I'm not the best with fabrication, but you can go ahead and try to explain...

I've lapped the CPU prior to installing the water setup, so yes it is flat. I'll just sit on these temps for a while then... if something goes wrong, I'll know because the temps won't be as good as this
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All you need is a 1/2" T, then this for a probe..Temp Probe..This for your read-out..Probe Read-Out.

Put the probe into the T, place it so the tip of the probe will just break the surface to the water, you will need to cut the T down a little to get it right..When you geti t to where its right go ahead and use some clear silicone all around it, let it cure for a couple of days..Then I use some heat shrink around it, go all the way up over the shoulder of the probes top, that will help to hold it well..

Then the read-out comes with a tape probe on the end of it, just cut that off and solder on a 3-pin molex to just 2 of the wires, I usually can find a 3-pin I've cut off a fain tail to use...The temp probe has a female 2-pin on it...Thats it...

You can see one in this first pic by my pressure gauge...The second pic is of 2 read-outs that I cut into the front of my case...



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I'd need a straight jacket after attempting that, now that I think of it (my handy-work skills are...well, they don't exist). I'll just let sleeping dogs lie for now
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System: R'lyeh
CPU
E6600 (L631F) @ 3.6GHz 1.425v (lapped)
Motherboard
ASUS P5B-E
Memory
2GB Corsair PC2-6400 CAS5
Graphics Card
BFG Tech 8800GTS OC 640MB
Hard Drive
300GB WD VelociRaptor, 320GB WD Caviar 7200
Sound Card
Audigy 4
Power Supply
SeaSonic S12 550W
Case
Lian-Li V2000
CPU cooling
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