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Default Help Choosing Rad(s) for Q6600 + 4870

Right now I'm in the process of planning my first WC build, but I'm having some trouble figuring out which parts to buy for the future. For the time being, I plan to only WC my Q6600, but I will eventually want to add a 4870 to the loop.

I was wondering what sized rad I should get to cool my Q6600? I was really wanting to get a 2x120mm rad so that I could mount it on the back of my Twelve Hundred, but I didn't know if this would be enough. I'm looking to get the best cooling for my Q6600, but I also don't want it to be extremely loud.

Now, say I was to get a 2x120mm rad for my Q6600, would it be alright if I just added another 2x120mm rad to the loop when I was ready to WC my 4870? Please feel free to offer up any suggestions, comments, or anything. I'm new to WC'ing and I don't quite understand every aspect of it quite yet.

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Well... I am not sure myself, but I am planning on getting a Q6700 and I am going to cool it with a GTX480. I think whichever radiator you get, it should be those PA120.# or the GTX ones. I am guessing depending how high you want to overclock, a 2x120mm should work pretty well (unless if you wanna take it to the limit like me planning on taking my Q6700 to 4GHz). As for the 4870 another 2x120mm should do good (not that sure because I haven't cooled any graphics cards before). You as might as well just get a GTX480 if you are planning on keeping your Q6600 stock as well as your 4870. And I couldn't help, but noticing your name... DerkaDerka, I use that a lot for my in game names and other things, I am sorta Arab in a way, I am from Pakistan, but I was born in Saudi Arabia, but I moved to US when I was 4 and most people here think Pakistan is in the Middle East.
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For lower speed fans the thermochill PA's and the new feser radiators are the best. For just a q6600 a PA120.2 should handle it, same with a 4870. Don't just add another radiator to a loop however, you need to build two loops, one for video, one for graphics.
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Thermochill PA120.3 or the GTX360 would be fine for the Q6600 + 4870. If you are just cooling the quad, a 2x120mm should be just fine.

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For lower speed fans the thermochill PA's and the new feser radiators are the best. For just a q6600 a PA120.2 should handle it, same with a 4870. Don't just add another radiator to a loop however, you need to build two loops, one for video, one for graphics.
Damn, so I'm basically going to have to buy 2x everything? Jeez, it's going to be a-lot more expensive than I thought. Oh well, it's only money

Well I'm probably going to have to build my cpu loop first, and then when I have the money I'll be able to build my second one. For my cpu loop I was going to get the Fuzion V2 with the quad core insert, DD Micro Res, D5 Vario pump, and I can't make my decision on which rad to get. I was thinking about getting the Feser X-Changer 240mm, PA 120.2, or the GTX240.

According to this, http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2008...r-shootout-1/4 , the Feser rad performs about 1C behind the GTX360 and it's smaller, which means I'll be able to stick it to the back of my case. But I also like the PA 120.2 because it can run on low cfm fans and still perform good. But then I read that the GTX240 can outperform the PA 120.2 with high CFM fans, so I'm kinda stuck on which one to get.

Anyways, which one is going to give me the best performance? Money isn't really a factor, so whatever you guys suggest is the one I'll get. Also, I want to push my Q6600 past 3.6Ghz, so whichever rad performs the best with overclocked cpu's is definitely the one I'll be looking to get.
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you prolly could get a way with a mrc320. mine can handle my quad up to 3.9ghz

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Damn, so I'm basically going to have to buy 2x everything? Jeez, it's going to be a-lot more expensive than I thought. Oh well, it's only money

Well I'm probably going to have to build my cpu loop first, and then when I have the money I'll be able to build my second one. For my cpu loop I was going to get the Fuzion V2 with the quad core insert, DD Micro Res, D5 Vario pump, and I can't make my decision on which rad to get. I was thinking about getting the Feser X-Changer 240mm, PA 120.2, or the GTX240.

According to this, http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2008...r-shootout-1/4 , the Feser rad performs about 1C behind the GTX360 and it's smaller, which means I'll be able to stick it to the back of my case. But I also like the PA 120.2 because it can run on low cfm fans and still perform good. But then I read that the GTX240 can outperform the PA 120.2 with high CFM fans, so I'm kinda stuck on which one to get.

Anyways, which one is going to give me the best performance? Money isn't really a factor, so whatever you guys suggest is the one I'll get.
I guess it's down to if you care about noise. If you do then go with the PA120.2 if not then the GTX240.
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you prolly could get a way with a mrc320. mine can handle my quad up to 3.9ghz
I'm really trying to avoid buying a 3x120mm rad due to the fact that I want to mount it on the back of my case. I have no clue really where the hell I'll put two 3x120mm rads if I choose to WC my 4870 as well.

Or do I even need to have two rads? I've been reading around some other forums and I haven't seen anyone suggest a dual loop, I've only seen single loops suggested for people cooling a cpu and gpu. If having a second loop is absolutely necessary then I will just suck it up and pay the extra cash for it. But obviously if I can just buy a really good rad and pump for a single loop I would much rather do that.
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It depends on what kind of performance your looking for, you could put it all on a 120mm rad, you wouldn't get very good temp's with it though..You can hang a 360 on the back of your case, just mount it in the middle fan bracket of the rad, might stick up over your case a little...

Or just cut a 120mm in your loop after you do your GPU, unless your really pushing clock on the GPU you might want to stick with a good HSF for it anyway...

For 47+ cfm fans I would get a GTX.360 GTX Beats PA.3 w/47cfm Fans..For lower then 47cfm fans a PA would do better..

Martins Thermals...HWlabs 480GTX thermals-Martin

Personally for a performance I wouldn't go smaller then a 120x38mm fan like this..86cfm Pana.I use these...115cfm Pana.

So at that level the GTX beats a PA hands down anyway...Shrouds are the cheapest few C you can get in WC"ing, they will help on a GTX..

I did this shroud testing with my 480GTX...Part-1-480 GTX-Temps W & W/O Shrouds

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But honestly the 360 just isn't that much more $$$ then a 240 is, I would try to fit it somewhere, there is no substitute for rad surface area, even just using it for the quad...If nothing else it will keep your temp's from spiking as fast and they will drop faster....

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Thanks for your response, very helpful

I still have a few questions though, and most of them will probably seem stupid. Anyways, if I was to buy a GTX360, would I still be able to mount it on the rear of my case (Antec 1200) but have one part of it sticking above my case? Also, in the future if I was to buy a GTX240 would it be enough to help cool the addition of a gpu or would you suggest just building an entire new loop?

One last question. So basically what you're doing with the fans (to make shrouds) is just cutting the fan out of it's enclosure and then using cable ties to put it on the radiator? I'm afraid I didn't quite understand what exactly you're trying to do by making them, and also what exactly you do to make them (I'm a little bit out of at atm)

Thanks once again.
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