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Old 07-22-08   #1 (permalink)
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Should i get a Thermochill PA120.3 or a Black Ice GT Stealth 360. This is going to be added to my 240 radiator that i have right now. Im going to be water cooling my GPU and a Quad (maybe something else).
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Just a couple of questions before anybody can give you a proper answer ...

Is this going to be an internal or external rad ?
And, what speed fans will you be using ?
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The GTS is a fairly flow restrictive rad, I would only use it for a CPU only loop with one rad and a good pump...GTS Review

The GTX is a fairly free flowing rad that out cools a PA with 47+cfm fans on it..360 GTX.Its a little cheaper then a PA also..The PA is fine to if you prefer that, its a really free flowing rad..

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Yeah if you were really set on the GTS, I think the X-Flow would be the preferred. That should potentially cut the restriction in half and make it a good lower speed fan radiator, although there's not any testing done on the X-Flow.

The GTS and GTX use thinner tubes which helps with heat transfer, but makes them a bit more restrictive. The GTX however being double thickness has twice the number of tubes. Theoretically an X-Flow GTS would be similar in restriction to the GTX 2 pass design. The GTX is king of the high speed fans, where something like the PA or TFC rads are optimal for the low speed fans.

If cost is a concern you might instead consider a BIX for high speed fans or any of the slim open finned radiators like the BIP, MCR, XSPC RS series radiators. These are all really good radiators too, and a great value.

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I'm going with a BIX... Have heard nothing but good things about them.
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I'm going with a BIX... Have heard nothing but good things about them.
Yeah the BIX along with the Heatercores may very well be the best value radiators for high speed fans. They are thick and dense so, just make sure you're running some good 38mm fans on them with at least 1700RPM or so to make full use of that density.

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Yeah the BIX along with the Heatercores may very well be the best value radiators for high speed fans. They are thick and dense so, just make sure you're running some good 38mm fans on them with at least 1700RPM or so to make full use of that density.
was going to get yale loon's high speed... but i may get 3000RPM kaze's with a fan controller its hard to justify the cost of 4 of them vs the yale loons.
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Yeah the BIX along with the Heatercores may very well be the best value radiators for high speed fans. They are thick and dense so, just make sure you're running some good 38mm fans on them with at least 1700RPM or so to make full use of that density.
I plan on getting the GTX480 for my loop and I've been looking to strap some Ultra Kaze's on there but I can't figure out which speed I want to get. I really don't want to get the 3000rpm versions just because they are so damn loud. But then the 2000rpm versions only push 88cfm or something around there, and I didn't know if it would make any difference compared to the 133cfm 3000rpm fans. So my question is, which one would be better?

I also plan on getting a fan controller, preferably one with a nice blue lcd. Anyone got any recommendations?
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get the 3000's with a fan controller

http://www.petrastechshop.com/5sckmamufuco.html
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I plan on getting the GTX480 for my loop and I've been looking to strap some Ultra Kaze's on there but I can't figure out which speed I want to get. I really don't want to get the 3000rpm versions just because they are so damn loud. But then the 2000rpm versions only push 88cfm or something around there, and I didn't know if it would make any difference compared to the 133cfm 3000rpm fans. So my question is, which one would be better?

I also plan on getting a fan controller, preferably one with a nice blue lcd. Anyone got any recommendations?
Personally I couldn't stand the noise of the 3000RPM setting. If I really wanted good radiator performance, I would go for the 2000RPM types myself. The UK3's like alot of fans tend to get a bit clicky sounding when undervolted with a normal fan controller. PWM controllers don't do that, but normal does.

If you're at all not sure about fan noise and expect you might want to run them at 2000RPM, I would buy the 2000RPM types.

I've got one of the 1000RPM fans here too. I think it'll outperform a 25mm yate at the same RPM. Short of the sleeve bearing it's a pretty good fan. Just be careful about running them horizontal, the sleeve bearings don't seem to like that for longevity...or so I've heard anyway.

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