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Just a quick question, just the amount of liquid in a watercooling loop improve the cooling of that loop, as I am choosing from 2 reservoirs, one 100mm in length and the other 250mm in length. Links to the actual products below.

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http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=6173
250mm length version
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=6174

Another question. Assuming that I try to overclock my Q6600 as much as I can and throw a stock GTX280 or something with that much heat into a single loop, how much worse/better would those temps be if compared to 2 weaker loops? IE, $400 Australian for the single loop, $200 for the 2 loops each.

Question 3: How often will I have to check maintenance on the loop/loops (undecided at this moment) and give me explanations and what I actually have to do.

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TBQH it might help alittle.... but heat transfers through liquid quite rapidly... I would think there wouldn't be that much difference.
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not much because the chief job of taking away heat is done by reservoirs and compressors/radiators.... thermodynamics like isotherms and adiabatic expansions also play an important role.... but i think the heat transfer would depend more on A surface area of loop/sink contact and on the principal behind your particular cooler...
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All the extra coolant will do is make your system take a little longer to get up to normal operating temp. No real effect one way or the other.
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What does TBQH mean?!?!

Ok, The loop I plan will be something like this;

Reservoir->3x120mm radiator-> CPU -> Chipset (unconfirmed) -> graphics (a new nvidia one)

If the reservoir size doesn't really matter, why do they make them in large and small sizes?
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What does TBQH mean?!?!

Ok, The loop I plan will be something like this;

Reservoir->3x120mm radiator-> CPU -> Chipset (unconfirmed) -> graphics (a new nvidia one)

If the reservoir size doesn't really matter, why do they make them in large and small sizes?
They make em in these sizes because a single reservoir maybe supplying to multiple loops... you can have 4 outlets from a large reservoir one to each loop for 2 processors and 2 Cards in SLI/Crossfire.... becomes unmanageable to have 4 loops in the same system and 4 reservoirs.... Ive seen a system in electronics lab that had 8 loops in it.... i think it was an ultraspark and it was being used to implement some micron level simulations....
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What does TBQH mean?!?!
My guess is: "to be quite honest." It wouldn't seem to me that it'd help much really. Like Exidous said, it'd just take longer to heat up under load. The overall temp in the end will be about the same.
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I guess I'll be going with the shorter one then.

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Updated with a new question

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As for your second question I'm not so sure. I have never run seperate loops and use a single Swiftech stealth 360 x-flow. I has cooled a 9600BE and a 3870x2 and a e8400 and 4870 just fine. in seperate rigs of course.

I'm sure that dual loops would result in lower temps but I don't think the benefit is really worth the hastle and extra tubing running around.
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