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Old 07-30-08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is a 2800LPH discharge rate pump not good in cooling?
i have a DIY res and pump with a discharge rate of 2800LPH, is it mush better cooling than those 655 pumps with only 1200LHP discharge rate? or is it too powerful enough?

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*D-TEK FuZion v2 Extreme Performance CPU Block
with D-Tek FuZion v2 Quad Core Mid Chamber Insert

*Feser X-Changer 360 mm Extreme Performance Radiator

*EK Waterblocks EK-NB/SB 5 - Acetal

*HydrX Extreme-Duty UV Coolant

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150 WD RAPTOR		 Power Supply
850 GIGABYTE ODIN GT		 Case
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What's the head? Rig my sig for its importance.

Also, that submerged pump dumps all of its heat into the loop... not good.
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I misplaced a whole motherboard once....still haven't found it and it's been 2 years and I live in the same house. I think I have gremlins.

System: My "DF-DIE" Replacement
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hmmm that was what i suspect. what do you mean head? i use a 1/2 ID 3/4 OD tubing.

my loop is pump > radiator > dtek fuzion v2 cpu > ek nb/sb 5 > pump

heres the pic of my water cooling system as i leak testing





so am i better get 655?

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hmmm that was what i suspect. what do you mean head? i use a 1/2 ID 3/4 OD tubing.

my loop is pump > radiator > dtek fuzion v2 cpu > ek nb/sb 5 > pump

heres the pic of my water cooling system as i leak testing


so am i better get 655?

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I misplaced a whole motherboard once....still haven't found it and it's been 2 years and I live in the same house. I think I have gremlins.

System: My "DF-DIE" Replacement
CPU
Q6600 (3.7GHz)		 Motherboard
Asus P5E X38 (MF1208 BIOS)		 Memory
2x2GB OCZ Reaper 1096MHz 		Graphics Card
8800GT (729/1836/2088)
Hard Drive
PERC 5/i: 3xRAID0 Raptor 74GB + 7200.10 250GB		 Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeMusic		 Power Supply
Corsair 620HX		 Case
Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans]
CPU cooling
FuZion V2 + Quad-Heatercore		 GPU cooling
MCW60 + Iandh HS + DDC-3.2		 OS
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thanks guys nice info

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guys my head is 2.3m.

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A Laing D5 (aka 655) pump does 3.8m head and 1100LPH.
Yours does 2.3m head and 2800LPH.

If the numbers are all correct, your pump is more powerful in most cases. However, the D5 is better in a high restriction loop. Another thing to consider is that the D5 is an inline pump so only a portion of its heat gets dumped into the loop. Your submerged pump drops 100% of its heat into the loop. More heat means increased loop temperature which the increased flow rate may or may not counter balance.

What pump are you using exactly?
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I misplaced a whole motherboard once....still haven't found it and it's been 2 years and I live in the same house. I think I have gremlins.

System: My "DF-DIE" Replacement
CPU
Q6600 (3.7GHz)		 Motherboard
Asus P5E X38 (MF1208 BIOS)		 Memory
2x2GB OCZ Reaper 1096MHz 		Graphics Card
8800GT (729/1836/2088)
Hard Drive
PERC 5/i: 3xRAID0 Raptor 74GB + 7200.10 250GB		 Sound Card
X-Fi XtremeMusic		 Power Supply
Corsair 620HX		 Case
Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans]
CPU cooling
FuZion V2 + Quad-Heatercore		 GPU cooling
MCW60 + Iandh HS + DDC-3.2		 OS
Vista Ultimate 64		 Monitor
Samsung 226BW "C" + Sceptre 19"
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i am using haelia immersible pump 6840

what is much better? a 355 with res top or a 655 with res top also?

is it always better if you have high head and high flowrate in bringing down a very good temp in load time?

i am planning to build a loop like this


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150 WD RAPTOR		 Power Supply
850 GIGABYTE ODIN GT		 Case
3D AURORA 570 GIGABYTE
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is it always better if you have high head and high flowrate in bringing down a very good temp in load time?
Download Martin's flow rate estimator. You'll learn a lot.
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thanks guys

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4GB 4X1 TEAM EXTREEM 1066MHZ 		Graphics Card
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Hard Drive
150 WD RAPTOR		 Power Supply
850 GIGABYTE ODIN GT		 Case
3D AURORA 570 GIGABYTE
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