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Old 10-28-08   #51 (permalink)
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Just spoke to Paul @ XSPC and the message back was that if you use thermal pads on their blocks instead of thermal paste you run the risk of making the GPU core have poor contact with the waterblock as it's essentially lifting the block away from the core by a few mm.

The supplied thermal paste is there to be used on both the GPU core AND the memory.

I will assume this is also applies to EK blocks unless they supply thermal pads for the memory.

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Thermal pads are a much safer method and next to impossible to screw up. If you tell someone to use thermal paste on a chip the size of a mosfet, chances are bits of it will get on the PCB. It's just asking for trouble. And it's not like thermal pads add that much onto the cost at all.

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He's gotta be using thermal pads made from elephant hide if they're that thick..

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See above, we posted at the same time.

EDIT: Also, i'm not suggesting that users put thermal paste on mosfets or vregs, as you said, thats a much smaller surface area and can easily go wrong.

I'm talking about memory chips which are much bigger and easy to apply TIM onto.


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x2. You broke it. Its very irresponsible to cheat them into giving you a new card when your modding broke it.
i hope your joking..????

Nvidia probably earn 60% clear profit from every unit sold (given the trade cost of the actual components)...that's millions!!
280s are bloody expensive, & if im honest ..yeah i would try & claw as much out of a company like this as possible, they have been doing it to the end user since forever....

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i hope your joking..????

Nvidia probably earn 60% clear profit from every unit sold (given the trade cost of the actual components)...that's millions!!
280s are bloody expensive, & if im honest ..yeah i would try & claw as much out of a company like this as possible, they have been doing it to the end user since forever....

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maybe you have been living under a rock for the past year, but nvid is just making losses.
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i hope your joking..????

Nvidia probably earn 60% clear profit from every unit sold (given the trade cost of the actual components)...that's millions!!
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If you don't like how much profits you claim nvidia makes then dont buy their product. No matter what lame excuse you want to make it is still very shady and criminal to "claw" money out of a business. especially when it was the users fault for smearing conductive tim all over his card.
I don't think anyone has decent morals anymore, given a chance most people will rob you blind and twist it around in their head to make it seem like they did nothing wrong.
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If you don't like how much profits you claim nvidia makes then dont buy their product. No matter what lame excuse you want to make it is still very shady and criminal to "claw" money out of a business. especially when it was the users fault for smearing conductive tim all over his card.
I don't think anyone has decent morals anymore, given a chance most people will rob you blind and twist it around in their head to make it seem like they did nothing wrong.
Oh jeebus help us with the ethics.

You're telling me if you were mounting the block on your brand new gtx280 and you borked it, you'd take the hit?

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I will assume this is also applies to EK blocks unless they supply thermal pads for the memory.
Yes it does, EK only supplies some thermal pads for VREGs (on my 8800 FC block at least). And it sounds more then possible to me that using thermal pads on the memory would lift the block a bit up and thus making less contact with the GPU (and every 1/100mm here matters).

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That's why you get a GPU block and get some cheap copper RAMsinks, along with a couple sheets of thermal tape.....you can reuse them with each new graphics card
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