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like that the outside lines are acrylic and it would be a square box...the inside lines are the copper waterfalls.


hmm I cant get it to show up right lol

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DIRTYDUCK

yeah I was thinking of trying out the pad thing but this picture I drew with the copper and acrylic is for someone that wants a nice looking bong, This idea is so good I almost thought about no sharing it tell I started the build log...However my lack of money for acrylic and a place to buy copper sheets (woudn't need to be any specific thickness.) has kept me from starting it...however the idea is burnt into my mind and I am quite sure it would be a jaw dropper...you think people are confused now...lol
The idea is to make the tower look like art/water feature. it would blend into the room and just look like something a local coffee shop might have for ambiance. subtle lighting behind the copper would help it shine,
Another idea was drilling holes into the copper stairs so it dripped down and also placing them in a "spiral". I think that would make a nice effect.

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nub

Very nifty. I am also funds limited at the moment, but will keep my eyes open for any craft type of things I could adapt for use in a cooler. I would have put a sketch in also, but I am very limited in the artsy skills area

edit. about your design. Ok. instead of having one branch at the bottom, what about having a 'branch opening' at each side. You could make what appears to be a 'frame' for the water feature that is say 3 or 4" wide all around it. and inside this disguise air pathways leading to the openings along with say a thin 120cm fan, maybe a scythe low profile type? It would make it look like a picture frame type thing.. to make the copper sheets more decorative you could take a ball peen hammer and - I forget the term for it - give them a textured appearance that might make them shimmer more with water on them.

edit. refinement. you could also place the fans perpendicular, rather than flat. this would let you have a 'thin appearing frame that would be say 4" thick on the sides.... bah. I'll just try to draw a picture and then get it onto photobucket for you as a jpeg.

JackNco

Hey I have a question about water loss.

As I understand it the humidity of the water is taking away the good water from the system as its removing the air. BUT if you cooled the air before it exited the system you could retain more of this water and extend the amount of time before refills. Asuming this is correct... (and im sure ill be corrected if im not)

Could you not then force the collect the water in an elbow at the top of the pipe if you could cool it down. say by using copper fins?



The idea is to cool the air down and let the escaping air collect in the second elbow, this could also be used as a top up meter if it was clear tube and connected to the bottom. Sure eventually the copper fins would heat up but if your systems not on 24/7 it would cut down on water loss. especially if the pipes were metal as well and the fins were tack welded to them in places.

This would also help if you were using some kind of misting head instead of a shower head.

That or ive completely missed how this works and in fact you are not losing water from the air blowing through the system and its in fact just through general evaporation?

Opinions please?

John

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DIRTYDUCK

Ok so what your talking about is called "perpetual motion" it just is not possible. You need the water to escape in order to complete the cycle...many people have thought of this but it just goes against the laws of physics. Nice drawing though!

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JackNco

Its not perpetual. like i said it wouldn't work on a 24/7 rig. things would warm up eventually. at which point water would stop collecting. but if you are using 3' of copper in the crisscross design like in the picture in a 4" tube that's 12 square foot of copper sheet or 24feet of surface to heat up.

I know it gets expensive as you add more stuff and so less of a point as you could just buy a rad. but I was thinking more just as a working solution. Also with multiple pipes with the added surface on, as the air touches a surface which is a lower temperature it would gradually lower its temperature and increase the temperature of the heat sink on the inside of the pipes.

LOL I know perpetual heat transfer breaks the laws of physics :P. But if i understand these bongs its the heat you want rid of not the water. so if you can cool some of the air down and save the water on the way out in a second chamber it improves efficiency. after all some gaming rigs are only on for a few hours while people game.

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DIRTYDUCK

yeah man...check it out though...I have what seems like endless cooling here...it would take FOREVER for my chip to heat up my full res of water. its a 22 gallon res.

I get all the cooling I need from the oversized res. I bet I could put 3 full rigs on this bong and still not heat up the res water( I might be FOS on that). as far as losing water goes, you can cut that down by lowering your fan speed, or making your water droplets larger.

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JackNco

no doubt, Im just thinking out loud I guess.

Im on air cooling atm mainly because water cooling is so expensive, then I saw this and suddenly my minds racing. Back to daydreaming about getting blocks milled up and all sorts of silly ideas that probably wouldn't have worked. I guess my thought process want along the lines of.

Shower heads are noisy, so use a few water misters, then loads of water would escape very fast, so cool it on a cold surface and take it back, then the surface would get hot, so it needs to be big.

Heh I guess i think to much and don't get stuck in enough.

John

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DIRTYDUCK

well first of all it is great that you have taken interest in bong cooling. The more exposure it gets the better off for everyone. IMO a bong cooler is the best cooling around. You save in a bunch of ways!

The sound of the water coming down and trickling into the res might be the best part of the bong. (you can ask anyone with a bong) the sound is very soothing and I would miss it if it wasn't there. I love the sound it makes!!!! If you don't like the sound of the droplets hitting water you can use a sponge at the bottom to silence the sound. then you will only hear the 1 120mm fan that is on it. much more quiet then 6x120mm fans I would think.

You shouldn't worry about the water loss...it has had no noticeable effects. Just dump in some more water when it starts getting low.

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JackNco

Yeah that's the part of the puzzle that just droped in to place, everything Ive read about water cooling demands adatives but sounds like in this its not an issue. Something to do with silver as well...

Its something to bear in mind when I get sick of fans (currently 6 120mm fans plus the Graphics card and the cooler soon to be even more with a fan controller)

I do think if its as good as its cracked up to be its something that might find its way in to the corner of my room. although now I know I don't need adatives. I think Ill keep daydreaming on this one and see if anything else springs to mind.

Cheers for your help dude, rep added :P

John

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