Some_Idiot2

I'm planing on getting a CPS MAG pump for my upcoming WC setup. The setup includes a 3 barb homemade waterblock, maze4 GPU block and a Black Ice Micro2. Do you guys think the MAG pump will be able to pump enough water through the loop to handle the X850 XTPE, and my P4? I'm also going to be getting an SATA RAID card so I can get my FSB higher than 250MHz. And 2.6GHz NW-Cs can get up to 4.2 GHz with a Phasechange unit, so I plan on getting my CPU to at least 4GHz. Edit: Can a moderator please fix my title? As you can see, I made a typo.

Lando95

No, that pump is not powerful enough. You could use 2 of them in parallel and that would be much better. That pump has decent head pressure, but it's flowrate pretty much sucks.

Also, whatever you do, don't get the Black Ice Micro. It is a HORRIBLE performer. Especially with a cpu and gpu. You have a lot of heat to dissipate, so at an absolute minimum I would go with the BIX 2, or better yet a double heatercore.

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Some_Idiot2

I want a RAD that will fit on my case(2x80mm), and won't require too much case modification to get it to fit nicely in or on my case. I will be taking it to a lot of LAN parties, so I don't want a big dual heatercore dangling from the back of my case. Also, is there any other inexpensive pumps that don't require a PCI relay switch in order for the pump to turn on when my PSU powers up? I figured that I would need more than 160GPH, but the only other DC pumps that I can think of are Swiftek pumps, and I hear that those things are very unreliable, and require you to smack them a couple of times in order for them to start up. Thanks for the advice though.

muffin

Where did you hear that about Swiftech pumps? They are good, the MCP650/655 are excellent performers.

As Lando said - that Black Ice Micro is not good enough to cool a modern CPU and GPU. You need at least a single 120mm radiator, or a dual if possible.

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Some_Idiot2

But the Black ice Micro2 uses 2 80MM fans. So that would be the equivilant of a single heatercore with a 160MM fan on it. I'm thinking about buing a 75 Chevy pickup single heatercore, and I'm going to be making my own cascade jet style waterblock. I'll post some pics of the rough sketches as soon as I get my scaner working.

Sun

Wrong. It would be equilvalent to half of a 160mm heatercore.
Remember, area is two times, you did it once.

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Some_Idiot2

Lets see, the two 80mm fans total area is(3.14(40mm squared)x2) 10048, and the single 160mm fans total area is (3.14(80mm squared)=20096. So yeah, youre right, but the total area of a 120mm fan is only 11304, so one 120mm fan is slightly better than two 80mm fans.

Sun

Well, at least my basic math skills are still with me.
I still think a 120mm rad will do a lot better. But if you must, go with the dual 80. But, we did warn you. Just rember that.

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Lando95

It's not that simple. There are MANY more factors in how a radiator performs than just it's size. The thickness of the radiator, the thickness of the fins, the shape of the fins, the distance between the fins, the shape of the water channels, the thickness of the waterchannels, the amount of turbulence created inside the radiator...these are all factors that determine how well it will perform.

You don't have to believe me, but I am telling you from years of experience that the 2 x 80mm radiator is a piece of crap. It has the capacity to cool a mid-range video card, and that's about it. You can give it a try, but I just don't want you to waste your money on something that is junk.

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Some_Idiot2

So do you think a Chevy 75 pickup single heatercore with an uber 150mm 260 CFM would be able to get me to at least 4GHz?