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So im seeing alot of people air cool there 3ghz CPUs to 4 gigs on air just as with water.

Would water allow for a stable 5 ghz clock speed?

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B. if the gains are not that much greater I will watercool my GPU's cuss I think it might be more beneficial since they sit so close to each other.
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You won't get to 5GHz stable on water, or probably anything for that matter, unless we're talking about maybe TEC loop and a cherry picked e8600.

The lower temperatures will definitely help your max OC though, and in some cases like with a Core i7, past a certain point air cooling really isn't an option.

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So basically Air and water will get me to 4 ghz, but water will be slightly cooler temps and thus safer to run on a normal basis?
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So basically Air and water will get me to 4 ghz, but water will be slightly cooler temps and thus safer to run on a normal basis?
Basically. But in all honesty, you aren't guaranteed 4GHz with either. You're less likely to reach 4GHz on air though.
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Water cooling is great conversation piece. Why water is better for thermal transfer than a heatsink? Well a little beyond me. Ultimately it is "air cooled" for the active component of the thermal solution. Yea it might squeeze a tiny bit more. But if self contained it still relies on the same equation. And that is the maximum air can dissipate? Smoke and mirrors. A simple equation and the amount you could focus is splitting hairs. 2+2 always equals four.

Anecdotal stories mean nothing to me. Certainly not worth the cost other than as a conversation piece or bragging rights.
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Not on topic sorry,, Chopstix do you happen to play a game called 2moons? A character i am good buds with on there has that name lol.
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Water cooling is great conversation piece. Why water is better for thermal transfer than a heatsink? Well a little beyond me. Ultimately it is "air cooled" for the active component of the thermal solution. Yea it might squeeze a tiny bit more. But if self contained it still relies on the same equation. And that is the maximum air can dissipate? Smoke and mirrors. A simple equation and the amount you could focus is splitting hairs. 2+2 always equals four.

Anecdotal stories mean nothing to me. Certainly not worth the cost other than as a conversation piece or bragging rights.
One of the main arguments is that water removes heat quicker and more thoroughly. Rather than it just moving to the outer parts of the heat sink and dissipating into the case (which can in turn keep the air you use to cool toasty, depending on how good your circulation is) it moves the air quickly to a point at which it is moved outside the case. There is very little loss of heat to the inside of the case.
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Not on topic sorry,, Chopstix do you happen to play a game called 2moons? A character i am good buds with on there has that name lol.
lol, no sorry, I saw a guy in FFXI with this name, and liked it. I will how ever be checking out 2moons, im looking for a new game to play


On topic though, would it be a better idea to watercool 2 GPUs or the CPU?
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lol, no sorry, I saw a guy in FFXI with this name, and liked it. I will how ever be checking out 2moons, im looking for a new game to play


On topic though, would it be a better idea to watercool 2 GPUs or the CPU?
Ideally both. Really though, it depends on what you would like to do.

If you want to overclock your CPU and your temperatures are high, then that's the way to go.

If you want to overclock your GPUs and those temperatures are high, do that.

My goal is to make my bajillion fans obsolete and kill some noise while opening up some new grounds in terms of OC room. I also want to get rid of some of the heat that my computer puts off. Therefore I plan on one or two loops containing all of my components.

It's cheaper if you only cool your CPU, though.
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Water has a higher heat capacity than air and therefore is a better heat conductor. In simple terms, it will carry more heat away faster. Water (and the heat contained therein) can be much more easily directed away from your precious components, to a radiator where the heat is dissipated (preferably located as far away from your components as possible).
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