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Old 07-27-09   #1 (permalink)
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Default Make-It-Work Watercooling 083009 - Cleaning and Leaktesting

I'm in the process of building/planning a watercooling loop, and need some specific input.

In case any of you haven't seen my wanted thread, you should check it out for background. I've got most of the foundation materials, but am especially interested in getting some old fittings (barbs, angles, etc.)

A true gentleman of these forums, slickwilly, hooked me up with some "starter" gear. Thanks again slickwilly! You're my first sponsor!

That is an apogee GT (with all the fittings) and some koolance 7950GT coolers. (Well, one's for an ati card.)



The Koolance cards.



GT and its accessories.

This is gonna be great to cool the hardware in my Peavey mod. That's a 939 socket and the EVGA 7950GT. I'm thinking I'll hack up the remaining koolance block for use as a NB cooler.

The ApogeeGT comes with a variety of fitting sizes, and slickwilly provided some vinyl tubing in the 3/8 and 1/2 varieties. The Koolances can only take 1/4, and my local ace is out of it until wednesday.

What I'm thinking I should do, and would like some input on, is the use of mixed sizes of tubing in a loop, and thoughts on manifold usage.
I'm thinking that I could create a simple manifold out of a capped tube and 2 1/4 fittings (Koolance as GPU and NB coolers) and one 3/8 or 1/2 for the apogee gt.
Would there be any problems with going Pump -> Rad (bong)-> Manifold -> 3 blocks - 3 returns to Res - Pump?

I was going to try and fix this Rio Pump




but a replacement impeller would be like $35, and the pump would still require a lot of modification for WC. So I'm thinking I should be able to spend a little more and get a suitable pump.

Also, to add to the mix, my first rad will be a heatercore from huntman21014, which has 1/2 barbs I believe.

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Update. I'll be getting a non vario D5 from TopFuel, so it's getting close to building time. No thoughts on the first post... sure could use some advice!

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Well??
Lol, I'm not sure if you're asking if i've gotten the pump yet, or if there's any advice someone has about Manifolds.

No on the pump (we'll see about the office tomorrow) and no responses to the questions here. Naja responded to a PM, so I think I'll be fine manifolding, but might need to get a valve to be able to tweak flow rates.

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I think they have these in 3/8"-1/4" also but you can get 3/8" tubing on 1/2" fittings pretty easily anyway.+Swiftech "F" Fitting 1/2" Body to 1/4" Branch Set of 2

I'd run it res-pump-rad-CPU then somewhere after that put these fittings in and run it through the 1/4" loop then back to your 3/8" further down the line.It doesn't take much to cool off a GPU anyway unless your volt modding them.

Those Koolance blocks probably have aluminium in them so be sure to use some anti-corrosive so you don't get galvanic corrosion. 10-15% anti-freeze the rest distilled works pretty well, you'll know when its time to change it because it will start turning cloudy, that means its going back to a acidic Ph. Anti-freeze make a decent biocide to.

I'll leave you my cleaning and set-up PDF, it has all my coolant recipe in it. Be sure to clean your gear out well to, you can get all kinds of crud growing in it if you don't.
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yeah, that's definately anodised aluminum... koolance only recently made the switch to copper/brass
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I think they have these in 3/8"-1/4" also but you can get 3/8" tubing on 1/2" fittings pretty easily anyway.+Swiftech "F" Fitting 1/2" Body to 1/4" Branch Set of 2

I'd run it res-pump-rad-CPU then somewhere after that put these fittings in and run it through the 1/4" loop then back to your 3/8" further down the line.It doesn't take much to cool off a GPU anyway unless your volt modding them.

Those Koolance blocks probably have aluminium in them so be sure to use some anti-corrosive so you don't get galvanic corrosion. 10-15% anti-freeze the rest distilled works pretty well, you'll know when its time to change it because it will start turning cloudy, that means its going back to a acidic Ph. Anti-freeze make a decent biocide to.

I'll leave you my cleaning and set-up PDF, it has all my coolant recipe in it. Be sure to clean your gear out well to, you can get all kinds of crud growing in it if you don't.
Thanks for the link and advice, Ira. I'd already found and DLed your PDF, so I'm gonna be using that info for sure. I'm a little confused by the fittings you linked to, it looks like the main larger (1/2 or 3/8) continues on with a 1/4 offshoot. Wouldn't a single union style adapter be better? I mean, res-pump-rad- cpu - 1/4 adapter - GPU- 3/8 adapter- res? I'd think I'd need something to 'force' the flow into the 1/4 tubing, otherwise it would try taking the easy way out.

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yeah, that's definately anodised aluminum... koolance only recently made the switch to copper/brass
Thanks for the confirmation Chielscape!

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Thanks for the link and advice, Ira. I'd already found and DLed your PDF, so I'm gonna be using that info for sure. I'm a little confused by the fittings you linked to, it looks like the main larger (1/2 or 3/8) continues on with a 1/4 offshoot. Wouldn't a single union style adapter be better? I mean, res-pump-rad- cpu - 1/4 adapter - GPU- 3/8 adapter- res? I'd think I'd need something to 'force' the flow into the 1/4 tubing, otherwise it would try taking the easy way out.
But that restricts your flow down when it goes through the 1/4" barbs. There would or should be enough back pressure on your loop to still get flow thorough the GPU's on that 1/4" side loop with the "F" fittings, it doesn't take much to cool a GPU.

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What I'm thinking I should do, and would like some input on, is the use of mixed sizes of tubing in a loop, and thoughts on manifold usage.
I'm thinking that I could create a simple manifold out of a capped tube and 2 1/4 fittings (Koolance as GPU and NB coolers) and one 3/8 or 1/2 for the apogee gt.
Would there be any problems with going Pump -> Rad (bong)-> Manifold -> 3 blocks - 3 returns to Res - Pump?
But I should of read your post better to......Your just need a quick fix till you can get some more barbs on the GPU's. A maniflod or distribution block like that should work fine to and should pretty well keep up flow to the CPU. If you see that the 2-1/4" GPU loops are taking away from the CPU cooling just crimp the tubing a little to the GPU's to slow down the flow to them a little.
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